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Offline kevindavis

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« on: February 18, 2014, 08:05:01 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2014, 08:10:02 PM »
Please no.   Some people just can't take "no" for an answer.
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2014, 08:21:19 PM »
As long as he and Huckabee both run. That way the Iowa corn lobby splits the votes between the two.

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2014, 10:25:37 PM »
Well, I suppose he does serve a useful purpose......making the other candidates look better.

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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2014, 10:48:31 PM »
No more damn retreads.
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2014, 01:49:26 AM »
I think the GOP could put up anybody and win in 2016.  Santorum is a better candidate for President than most of the flawed humans who are running IMO.  I could easily pull the lever for him.  I hope he does run.  He is a solid conservative elected twice in liberally purple PA. 
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2014, 08:38:10 AM »
Another hard hitting republican in the fray. :drunk:
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2014, 08:40:34 AM »
No more damn retreads.

Agreed.

He's a decent man. We don't need a decent man right now. We need a hard ass who can do the unpopular.
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2014, 10:31:56 AM »
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Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2014, 12:35:15 PM »
Agreed.

He's a decent man. We don't need a decent man right now. We need a hard ass who can do the unpopular.

I am not sure how decent he is.  I thought he was a complete bleep in 2012... he was downright rude and all about me, me, me in the debates and lied about Perry repeatedly in Iowa.

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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2014, 12:39:08 PM »
I am not sure how decent he is.  I thought he was a complete bleep in 2012... he was downright rude and all about me, me, me in the debates and lied about Perry repeatedly in Iowa.

Why do you get to say "bleep" and I don't?
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2014, 12:39:33 PM »
Why do you get to say "bleep" and I don't?

I guess I do get to say "bleep"!
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2014, 12:40:36 PM »
I am not sure how decent he is.  I thought he was a complete bleep in 2012... he was downright rude and all about me, me, me in the debates and lied about Perry repeatedly in Iowa.

I'll cut him a bit of slack - though I wanted Perry and phone banked for Newt when Perry dropped out. It's the name of the primary game.

Santorum's a good family man, holds his beliefs honestly. That I accept. Yet something about him puts my teeth slightly on edge. Just never worked out what it was.
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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2014, 12:42:52 PM »
I'll cut him a bit of slack - though I wanted Perry and phone banked for Newt when Perry dropped out. It's the name of the primary game.

Santorum's a good family man, holds his beliefs honestly. That I accept. Yet something about him puts my teeth slightly on edge. Just never worked out what it was.

He was never able to even be elected to the senate from his home state of PA... for starters. Supported liberal Arlen Spector over conservative Pat Toomey for another, Rick Santorum is one of the most self-serving men I've seen run for President.

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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2014, 12:50:47 PM »
He was never able to even be elected to the senate from his home state of PA... for starters. Supported liberal Arlen Spector over conservative Pat Toomey for another, Rick Santorum is one of the most self-serving men I've seen run for President.

I sort of expect politicians to have their eye on the main chance, no matter which side of the aisle they are on. It wasn't that.

Could be his overt religious stance. Different culture here and that does make me uncomfortable. Could be he's a bit of a smug sod on the quiet. Could be the one trick pony aspect to his run. I honestly don't know. I was just relieved when he dropped out.
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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2014, 01:03:56 PM »
No more damn retreads.

 :silly: that is a nice way to put it and I agree.
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2014, 01:40:09 PM »
I think the GOP could put up anybody and win in 2016.  Santorum is a better candidate for President than most of the flawed humans who are running IMO.  I could easily pull the lever for him.  I hope he does run.  He is a solid conservative elected twice in liberally purple PA.

Good grief, the man was soundly tossed out on his ass by the same liberally purple PA the last time he ran.

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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2014, 01:43:30 PM »
I think the GOP could put up anybody and win in 2016.  Santorum is a better candidate for President than most of the flawed humans who are running IMO.  I could easily pull the lever for him.  I hope he does run.  He is a solid conservative elected twice in liberally purple PA.

He was elected ONCE.. and then kicked to the curb by voters who were angry at his support of Spector over Toomey.

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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2014, 03:07:40 PM »
Does he have a job?  How's he feeding his family? 

Seriously.
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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2014, 03:10:07 PM »
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2014, 03:24:50 PM »
He was elected ONCE.. and then kicked to the curb by voters who were angry at his support of Spector over Toomey.
You can make up what ever facts you want, but Santorum was elected in 1994 to the US Senate and re-elected in 2000 according to reality.
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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2014, 03:39:40 PM »
You can make up what ever facts you want, but Santorum was elected in 1994 to the US Senate and re-elected in 2000 according to reality.
Santorum was elected and served in the House, then Senate, from 1991 until 2007. He lost reelection in 2006.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Santorum

He seems like the perfect candidate, for a decreasing fraction of the center-right voting potential demographic.

He has found a career lengthening niche using the Buchanan-Gingrich model of permanent media entertainer, whereby running or threatening to run is almost mandatory.
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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2014, 03:44:43 PM »
You can make up what ever facts you want, but Santorum was elected in 1994 to the US Senate and re-elected in 2000 according to reality.

Rap may have been mistaken on his length in office but not about why he was defeated..

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/03/20/specter-2006-hey-if-not-for-rick-santorum-i-wouldnt-have-been-reelected/

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71455.html

these are just a few of the many articles about it.

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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2014, 03:51:56 PM »
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2014, 04:23:41 PM »
I don't know why but Rick Santorum sets my teeth on edge.  I can't figure it out, but he acts and talks kind of smug, like he's on some upper level of earth and you're down in the ditch.
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