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Offline mystery-ak

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Obama orders new green rules
« on: February 18, 2014, 02:38:37 PM »

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Re: Obama orders new green rules
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2014, 08:49:46 PM »
[[ President Obama on Tuesday announced he was ordering his administration to develop a set of new fuel efficiency standards for trucks, buses and other heavy-duty vehicles. ]]

Never mind physics and the laws of thermal efficiency.

We'll dictate the new natural laws, thank you very much.

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Re: Obama orders new green rules
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2014, 09:10:51 AM »
Um - Fleets will be buying European trucks then?
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Re: Obama orders new green rules
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2014, 10:09:11 AM »
Um - Fleets will be buying European trucks then?

I'm not certain EU built trucks meet all US requirements for those kinds of vehicles.

The point to remember here, is that Obama is tasking his EPA and Transportation Secretaries to come up with standards for which neither has any experience or competence in whatsoever.  The former Mayor of Charlotte and the former Connecticut EPA Director??  Exactly what qualifies either one of them to specify standards for anything much less heavy trucks??

The fact is that the Industry has been improving over the road truck fuel economy because of the financial pressures of the industry, and does not need the government to impose standards on them that are simply not attainable in any cost effective form whatsoever, or the industry would have already come up with it.

Another fact is that diesel powered vehicles like heavy trucks and locomotives are the life blood of the entire transport system in the United States, and Big Government meddling in it is every bit as bad if not worse than the government meddling in the health care markets.  Virtually every single customer commodity from toothpaste to television sets moves on diesel powered vehicles more efficiently than any other type of power we have ever come up with it.  We let government tamper with it at our extreme peril.



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Re: Obama orders new green rules
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2014, 10:21:00 AM »
They certainly meet the very stringent emissions standards we have over here, though possibly not the fuel economy standards being imposed. And, as you say, it was done by market forces, not Executive fiat. You have emission bands here - your vehicle is tested for it's emissions and taxed accordingly. Different sized engines have different permissible maximums - if your vehicle is well below, you get a cut price Road Tax. Fuel is horrendously expensive as well, so there is a push for the most efficient engines possible.

The research is all there, it would depend on it being licensed to domestic producers. Of course, the biggest problem as far as fuel efficency and emissions standards go in the USA is you are such a damn big country! Everything needs hauling somewhere.
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