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http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/02/17/caddell_bombshell_gop_establishment_wants_the_irs_to_go_after_the_tea_party

Caddell Bombshell: GOP Establishment Wants the IRS to Go After the Tea Party
February 17, 2014
 
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RUSH: The Republican Party establishment... Let me set this up by going back to the 2012 presidential campaign. Remember when you learned that the Romney campaign, along with Republican establishment types, had put the word out that there was to be no criticism of Obama? In fact, I remember... I think I told you all this. A prospective Republican presidential candidate in 2010 or 2011 visited me.



There was some confab here in Palm Beach, and this man called and wanted to come by and tell me what his plans were. So I said, "Sure, come on by Sunday morning." The guy said, "Rush, now, I just want to tell you: We can't go after Obama. That's instant death. We can go after his policies, but we can't go after Obama." I said, "Really? How do you separate 'em? How do you not go after Obama if you're going after his policies? How could you go after his policies while not going after Obama?"

"We can't make it personal, Rush. We just can't do it." And that bled over to the Romney campaign, so much so that in the debates they wouldn't even bring up Benghazi. So now, the Republican establishment has let everybody in the party know that they will not tolerate, they will not advocate, and they won't put up with anybody attacking the Clintons' past. If Hillary runs for president, there will be no discussion of Lewinsky and the blue dress.

There will be no discussion of the Rose Law Firm, the billing records. There will be none of that stuff from the past. "We're not gonna dredge it up," the Republican establishment says. "It ain't gonna happen. We can't win by going back and being critical of the Clintons. We can't bring all that stuff up from the past. We're not gonna do it. We're gonna stay away from it."

Sure, they can attack Palin. They can attack Palin's whole family. They can make movies and talk about how the Republicans were so scared of her lack of intelligence, they wouldn't even vote for her. They can do all that, but we can't attack the Clintons. We couldn't attack Obama, and can't now attack the Clintons. Pat Caddell was on Fox saying the GOP establishment wants the IRS to go after the Tea Party.

Pat Caddell said yesterday on Fox News that the reason Republican leadership has not pushed for a higher-level investigation of the IRS for targeting the Tea Party is because they want the IRS to go after the Tea Party. When you have 71% who want an investigation, 64% who believe it is a sign of corruption, including nearly a majority of Democrats, the reason is the establishment Republicans want the IRS to go after the Tea Party.

Got it?

They want them to go after the Tea Party because the Tea Parties are an outside threat to their power hold. I'm telling you, the lobbying-consultant class of the Republican Party and Republican leadership, who have been attacking the Tea Party and alienating them, they want the IRS to do this. That's why there hasn't been any establishment Republican pushback on the IRS. It's almost safe to say the Republican establishment might be willing to lose a couple of elections if it meant getting rid of the Tea Party; because it's clear, folks, they don't want to win any elections the Tea Party can claim any credit for.

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RUSH: You gotta hear Pat Caddell. I mentioned this, but I want you to hear Pat Caddell say it. It was last night on the Fox report on the Fox News Channel, talking about the IRS targeting Tea Party groups.

CADDELL: The reason is, the establishment Republicans want the IRS to go after the Tea Parties. Got it? They want to go after the Tea Parties because the Tea Parties are an outside threat to their power hold, and I'm telling you, the lobbying, consulting class of the Republican Party and Republican leadership who have been attacking the Tea Parties and alienating them, they want the IRS to do this.

RUSH: That is a serious charge. That is a very, very serious charge, that the Republican establishment is aligned with Obama and is okay with Obama using the IRS to investigate the Tea Party. But it's believable, because we know the Republican establishment, the political class in Washington, is spreading the word that they are not gonna criticize Hillary, it isn't gonna happen, and we shouldn't, either. It shouldn't happen. It won't help anybody to criticize the Clintons, at least not from the nineties. Maybe go after her on Benghazi, but if anybody does that they'll say, "No, no, no, leave Benghazi alone." And pretty soon they're gonna say no criticism of the Clintons. That's not gonna help us. You watch.

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Of course they want the IRS to stop the Tea Party. Neither the Democrats of the GOPe want their feet held to the fire by main streeters...... they are too indebted to keeping their buddies a stones throw from the steps of the capital happy.
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Of course they want the IRS to stop the Tea Party. Neither the Democrats of the GOPe want their feet held to the fire by main streeters...... they are too indebted to keeping their buddies a stones throw from the steps of the capital happy.

Exactly....and this is one of the reasons I have left the GOP...

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Exactly....and this is one of the reasons I have left the GOP...

Me, too.  And the one paragraph I picked out of the article you posted in Opinions speaks volumes about what is wrong with the GOPe.....
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And what did Washington’s top two Republicans get for giving Obama 13 months to shop till America drops? Nothing! No repeal of Obamacare’s $47 billion bailout of health insurers. No approval of the Keystone XL Pipeline. No termination of the cure-killing medical-device tax. No votes on these matters, which would have forced Democrats to choose. This could have helped Republican candidates in November.
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Pat Caddell was on Fox saying the GOP establishment wants the IRS to go after the Tea Party.

Pat Caddell said yesterday on Fox News that the reason Republican leadership has not pushed for a higher-level investigation of the IRS for targeting the Tea Party is because they want the IRS to go after the Tea Party. When you have 71% who want an investigation, 64% who believe it is a sign of corruption, including nearly a majority of Democrats, the reason is the establishment Republicans want the IRS to go after the Tea Party.

Got it?


I have heard dems say this before. I am not a cheerleader for the GOP but this is ludicrous.

Pitting the tea party and conservatives against them all.

Having no voice or representatives while getting nastygrams from the IRS. This will make people not want to vote at all.

If this is believed and real why bother with this political forum?

I guess this is all lies as well?

House Republicans fighting Treasury Dept. effort to limit political activities of tax-exempt groups | Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/02/12/house-republicans-fighting-treasury-dept-effort-to-limit-political-groups/
« Last Edit: February 17, 2014, 04:20:36 PM by Gazoo »
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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... as I was saying.
“[Euthanasia] is what any State medical service has sooner or later got to face. If you are going to be kept alive in institutions run by and paid for by the State, you must accept the State’s right to economize when necessary …” The Ministry of Fear by Graham Green (New York: Penguin Books [1943] 2005, p. 165).

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Gazoo, 75% of the GOP representatives in the House have sent two letters to Boehner asking for a select committee to investigate Benghazi. Think about that.  75 % of the GOP Caucus and still Boehner refuses.  Why?  Is it because Issa wants to be king of the investigations and a select committee is smaller and more detailed and more efficient and he would not get the glory?? or is it something even more nefarious? 

Why did Boehner initially come out and do what Boehner always does - say "someone is going to go to jail about this" (IRS) and that is all we've heard from Boehner about this...

and NSA - why is Boehner not naming a select committee on NSA.  I can answer that one  - the head of the committee Mike Rogers thinks spying on us is good and so does Peter King (who wants to run for President).

I am not joking when I say the GOPe is the problem - they are.  Not all Republicans, we have some with good intentions - my congressman Gosar is good, but he is only one of 65 out of hundreds who don't give a darn what you or I think about anything... who only cares about their own power and we aren't that power  - K-Street is that power.
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and for the record I think if South Carolina congressman Trey Gowdy had been chairman instead of Issa Lois Lerner would never have escaped without testifying after claiming the fifth and then making a speech - he was incensed at Issa over that and look - she has yet to return.
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Gazoo, 75% of the GOP representatives in the House have sent two letters to Boehner asking for a select committee to investigate Benghazi. Think about that.  75 % of the GOP Caucus and still Boehner refuses.  Why?  Is it because Issa wants to be king of the investigations and a select committee is smaller and more detailed and more efficient and he would not get the glory?? or is it something even more nefarious? 

Why did Boehner initially come out and do what Boehner always does - say "someone is going to go to jail about this" (IRS) and that is all we've heard from Boehner about this...

and NSA - why is Boehner not naming a select committee on NSA.  I can answer that one  - the head of the committee Mike Rogers thinks spying on us is good and so does Peter King (who wants to run for President).

I am not joking when I say the GOPe is the problem - they are.  Not all Republicans, we have some with good intentions - my congressman Gosar is good, but he is only one of 65 out of hundreds who don't give a darn what you or I think about anything... who only cares about their own power and we aren't that power  - K-Street is that power.

We're always reading stories about "splits" and "rifts" in the GOP, but never the same stories about the Democrats.

That's because most of the GOP is made up of Democrats with an elephant on their shirts.
“[Euthanasia] is what any State medical service has sooner or later got to face. If you are going to be kept alive in institutions run by and paid for by the State, you must accept the State’s right to economize when necessary …” The Ministry of Fear by Graham Green (New York: Penguin Books [1943] 2005, p. 165).

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We're always reading stories about "splits" and "rifts" in the GOP, but never the same stories about the Democrats.

That's because most of the GOP is made up of Democrats with an elephant on their shirts.

Exactly. 
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So Democrat Pat Caddell now blames the GOP for Obama's IRS abuse, and people here take it at face value.   :silly:

This place is a few anti-Mormon posters short of being just like TOS.
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So Democrat Pat Caddell now blames the GOP for Obama's IRS abuse, and people here take it at face value.   :silly:

This place is a few anti-Mormon posters short of being just like TOS.

Yeah...

We shouldn't give weight to anything that Rush reports.
“[Euthanasia] is what any State medical service has sooner or later got to face. If you are going to be kept alive in institutions run by and paid for by the State, you must accept the State’s right to economize when necessary …” The Ministry of Fear by Graham Green (New York: Penguin Books [1943] 2005, p. 165).

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So Democrat Pat Caddell now blames the GOP for Obama's IRS abuse, and people here take it at face value.   :silly:

This place is a few anti-Mormon posters short of being just like TOS.

Maybe you should sit and give this whole thing some thought.

Who is the TEA party a bigger threat to?

A. Democrats
b. Establishment Republicans

I'll wait...
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Yeah...

We shouldn't give weight to anything that Rush reports.

I don't believe anything automatically unless Sarah Palin or Ted Cruz say it.
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So Democrat Pat Caddell now blames the GOP for Obama's IRS abuse, and people here take it at face value.   :silly:

This place is a few anti-Mormon posters short of being just like TOS.

This "place" is made up of a wide variety of posters with differing views on a number of issues, who (almost) always post respectfully and thoughtfully.

Your second statement is nothing short of ludicrous.
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This "place" is made up of a wide variety of posters with differing views on a number of issues, who (almost) always post respectfully and thoughtfully.

Your second statement is nothing short of ludicrous.

That's one view.  The other is that there is a very vocal group here that interjects the "GOPe" into almost every thread in the forums I tend to read, which are Politics and this one.
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So Democrat Pat Caddell now blames the GOP for Obama's IRS abuse, and people here take it at face value.   :silly:

This place is a few anti-Mormon posters short of being just like TOS.

Pat Caddell is not a Democrat.  No Democrat uses him as a consultant or campaign manager.

He WAS a Democrat consultant years ago; now, he knows he'll get a stage on FOXNEWS when he stirs the pot like this, so that's what he does.

And every word that falls from his mouth is treated as gospel by some on the right.

When is the last time he ever said anything positive about a Democrat?  I can't believe how gullible some people are, including Rush Limbaugh.
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That's one view.  The other is that there is a very vocal group here that interjects the "GOPe" into almost every thread in the forums I tend to read, which are Politics and this one.

"GOPe" is more hated than Democrats on this forum.  Hated.

I'm going to laugh like hell when John Cornyn wins the March 4 primary here in Texas without a runoff.  Texas primary voters are not going to  replace a respected Senator like Cornyn with a no-name or a certified nutburger like Steve Stockman.

Ted Cruz beat David Dewhurst because Dewhurst had a clear record, some of it not conservative.  He was punished for it.

Cornyn's as conservative as they come in the Senate.  His conservatism doesn't please some TPers; they want all other GOP Senators to kiss up to Ted Cruz, no matter how much damage he does to the party.

The Tea Party doesn't have near the clout it did in 2010 nor the consensus of Republicans behind it.  Remember, in 2010, they were opposing Democrats.  Now, they've turned their guns on fellow Republicans, and lots and lots of them are not happy about it.
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I'm going to laugh like hell when John Cornyn wins the March 4 primary here in Texas without a runoff.


I see another really bad case of Sinkspur depression appearing in the early morning hours of March 5th, 2014!

Cornyn isn't even close to 50% (he's at 43) right now and early voting starts tomorrow!

http://www.humanevents.com/2014/02/17/texas-gop-poll-cornyn-43-leads-stockman-28-failure-to-garner-50-triggers-may-run-off/
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That's one view.  The other is that there is a very vocal group here that interjects the "GOPe" into almost every thread in the forums I tend to read, which are Politics and this one.
Maybe you need to read more threads and explore more forums. That expression is rarely used at this site, but I suppose if you're looking for a reason to complain about it, you'll find it easily enough.
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I see another really bad case of Sinkspur depression appearing in the early morning hours of March 5th, 2014!

Cornyn isn't even close to 50% (he's at 43) right now and early voting starts tomorrow!

He's at 43% in a Gravis poll, one of the most disreputable and error-prone polling companies in America.

But in that same poll, conducted for Steve Stockman by Human Events, Stockman finishes BEHIND "UNSURE"!!!

Who votes in Republican primaries?  If it's all TPers, Cornyn's toast.  But we both know lots and lots of seniors vote in primaries who will stay with the recognizable name with the positive TV ads. 

Wanna bet $1000 bucks on the outcome?  I'll be glad to put my grand in escrow with Myst.
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Maybe you need to read more threads and explore more forums. That expression is rarely used at this site, but I suppose if you're looking for a reason to complain about it, you'll find it easily enough.

It is used ALL THE TIME, by certain posters.

ALL......THE......TIME!!!
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That's one view.  The other is that there is a very vocal group here that interjects the "GOPe" into almost every thread in the forums I tend to read, which are Politics and this one.

So??

State your opinion and counter it, if you disagree with this 'vocal group.'

I haven't found that to be even a majority opinion, though some hold the view very strongly.

The way to counter things you disagree with, is to state opinions that counter those opinions with rational arguments.

Saying that the forum is a few anti-Mormons short of being TOS just makes you look stupid.  (And I don't think you are).
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It is used ALL THE TIME, by certain posters.

ALL......THE......TIME!!!

To which I respond..............SO???

If you don't like those with that view, ignore them.

It's not representative of the majority opinion.

But I concur with mountaineer.  If you're looking for something to gripe about, it doesn't matter how widespread the problem is.

I have found that I agree with almost all the posters on this forum about SOME things, and disagree with almost all the posters on this forum about OTHER things.

That's what independent thinking is all about......................isn't it??
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That's one view.  The other is that there is a very vocal group here that interjects the "GOPe" into almost every thread in the forums I tend to read, which are Politics and this one.

Could be...and I don't care...you are free to voice your opinion here without me busting your chops..unlike TOS..

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