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Re: Despite debt limit vote, Kentucky conservatives sticking with McConnell
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2014, 01:33:24 PM »
And that's why he's trailing in the polls.

The Washington Compost is pimping for McConnell because he knows that Obama will continue to steamroll him.
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Re: Despite debt limit vote, Kentucky conservatives sticking with McConnell
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2014, 01:47:51 PM »
From what I can see here in Kentucky, the Democrat machine is out in full force to unseat McConnell.  His seat is crucial to them.  Now they are saying Bill Clinton will come to the state to campaign for Allison Lunder-what's-her-name.  That may have been one reason Rand Paul came out with his attacks on Bill Clinton - to try to discredit him with Kentucky voters.  I hate that Rand has endorsed McConnell - but I guess he knows what side of the bread the butter's on.   

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Even though Kentucky went for Obama - it is a massive Democrat state, especially when it comes to local politics.  In my county Dems outnumber Republicans at least six-to-one.  I will be voting for Bevin in the primary - but it's a real long-shot that he can defeat heavily entrenched and financed McConnell.  The real interesting part will be when he faces the Dem challenger in the fall - they will pull out all the stops and I'm convinced we will see some voter fraud here in that regard because Mitch's seat is so important to them. 

And really, Mitch is so vulnerable because he's so shitty.  That's just the facts.  I hate him.   
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Re: Despite debt limit vote, Kentucky conservatives sticking with McConnell
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2014, 02:09:56 PM »
O'Connell blocked the shut down of the government, which was previously blamed on Republicans and harmed their already lousy favorability.

A shutdown would damage the nation, in international financial circles. A shutdown could damage our nation's economy, employment, etc.

A shutdown would be very unlikely to result in significant spending reductions, while the democrats hold the Presidency and the Senate.

American voters disapprove of a shutdown, by a large margin. So why is a shutdown such a wonderful idea?
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Re: Despite debt limit vote, Kentucky conservatives sticking with McConnell
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2014, 02:47:38 PM »
From what I can see here in Kentucky, the Democrat machine is out in full force to unseat McConnell.  His seat is crucial to them.  Now they are saying Bill Clinton will come to the state to campaign for Allison Lunder-what's-her-name.  That may have been one reason Rand Paul came out with his attacks on Bill Clinton - to try to discredit him with Kentucky voters.  I hate that Rand has endorsed McConnell - but I guess he knows what side of the bread the butter's on.   

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Even though Kentucky went for Obama - it is a massive Democrat state, especially when it comes to local politics.  In my county Dems outnumber Republicans at least six-to-one.  I will be voting for Bevin in the primary - but it's a real long-shot that he can defeat heavily entrenched and financed McConnell.  The real interesting part will be when he faces the Dem challenger in the fall - they will pull out all the stops and I'm convinced we will see some voter fraud here in that regard because Mitch's seat is so important to them. 

And really, Mitch is so vulnerable because he's so shitty.  That's just the facts.  I hate him.   

He really hemmed and hawed when Beck pressed him on this endorsement, it was pretty clear it wasn't a vigorous endorsement.

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Re: Despite debt limit vote, Kentucky conservatives sticking with McConnell
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2014, 03:19:49 PM »
He really hemmed and hawed when Beck pressed him on this endorsement, it was pretty clear it wasn't a vigorous endorsement.

Yeah, I saw that.  I think Rand is very politically astute and probably is a killer chess player.  You can see when he says anything - that he has reasoned his responses 10 moves ahead and is very careful not to fall into any traps. 

Like he said, at the time he endorsed Mitch, no one else was running and Mitch flat out asked for his endorsement (probably because he could see that he wasn't popular in Kentucky and that there would probably be a tea party challenger in the primary).  Knowing how popular Rand Paul is in the state - this was a brilliant thing for McConnell to do early in the campaign.  Just like John McCain did with Sarah Palin.  It puts a politician in an incredibly awkward position later on when somebody better is running against the life-timer. 

Just like with McCain's re-election, I think it will be extremely difficult for Bevin to pull off an upset.  That's the unfortunate aspect of today's politics - once a politician gets a few terms under their belt it is almost impossible to defeat them.  It's these "lifers" that have destroyed our country because they have to keep promising payoffs in return for votes. 

It makes me very sad that people like Mitch McConnell, John McCain and others can stand at their pulpits come election time and pound the podium in mock rage while assuring us that if we will just re-elect them - they're going to "fix what's wrong in Washington".

YOU - Senator McConnell et al. - you ARE what is wrong in Washington, you lying POS!
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Re: Despite debt limit vote, Kentucky conservatives sticking with McConnell
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2014, 03:22:40 PM »
Yeah, I saw that.  I think Rand is very politically astute and probably is a killer chess player.  You can see when he says anything - that he has reasoned his responses 10 moves ahead and is very careful not to fall into any traps. 

Like he said, at the time he endorsed Mitch, no one else was running and Mitch flat out asked for his endorsement (probably because he could see that he wasn't popular in Kentucky and that there would probably be a tea party challenger in the primary).  Knowing how popular Rand Paul is in the state - this was a brilliant thing for McConnell to do early in the campaign.  Just like John McCain did with Sarah Palin.  It puts a politician in an incredibly awkward position later on when somebody better is running against the life-timer. 

Just like with McCain's re-election, I think it will be extremely difficult for Bevin to pull off an upset.  That's the unfortunate aspect of today's politics - once a politician gets a few terms under their belt it is almost impossible to defeat them.  It's these "lifers" that have destroyed our country because they have to keep promising payoffs in return for votes. 

It makes me very sad that people like Mitch McConnell, John McCain and others can stand at their pulpits come election time and pound the podium in mock rage while assuring us that if we will just re-elect them - they're going to "fix what's wrong in Washington".

YOU - Senator McConnell et al. - you ARE what is wrong in Washington, you lying POS!

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I agree with your observations re Rand.  He may be a "Paul" but he is much, much smarter than his father.


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