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Offline Rapunzel

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OBAMACARE MELTDOWN IN MASSACHUSETTS
« on: February 15, 2014, 01:48:36 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2014, 03:30:12 PM »
yah...Massachusetts health care was supposedly the model of he Nation, until the State changed it to comply with Obamacare.


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"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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Re: OBAMACARE MELTDOWN IN MASSACHUSETTS
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2014, 01:17:17 PM »
http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4486962/dr-danielle-martin-senator-richard-burr

I wonder who is included in the 45,000 Americans who die each year because they have no insurance? I wish she was asked that question.

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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2014, 01:34:03 PM »
I wonder who is included in the 45,000 Americans who die each year because they have no insurance? I wish she was asked that question.

Yeah I know. The tape cut off.
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

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Re: OBAMACARE MELTDOWN IN MASSACHUSETTS
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2014, 08:00:33 PM »
nobody dies because they don't have insurance.  They might not get as much care as they'd like, but they will get basic medical care if they seek it out; that's what the emergency rooms are for.

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Re: OBAMACARE MELTDOWN IN MASSACHUSETTS
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2014, 08:19:28 PM »
nobody dies because they don't have insurance.  They might not get as much care as they'd like, but they will get basic medical care if they seek it out; that's what the emergency rooms are for.
I may have recounted this before, but back in the late 80s my sister was working as a musician in Chicago with barely two dimes to rub together. While riding her bike she wiped out and injured her shoulder, requiring surgery. The hospital not only provided excellent treatment notwithstanding her lack of insurance, it set up a reasonable payment plan and she was able to pay the bill over time with no difficulty.

The problem now is that so many people - especially the young - believe they shouldn't have to pay anything at all for medical care. One of my nephews is like that. A few years ago when he was in his 20s and had no insurance, he was treated for some medical problem. When the bill came, he whined and complained that it wasn't fair that he should have to pay because it's not his fault he got sick. I expect he's signed up for O'care by now. Good luck with all that!  **nononono*
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Re: OBAMACARE MELTDOWN IN MASSACHUSETTS
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2014, 08:23:59 PM »
I may have recounted this before, but back in the late 80s my sister was working as a musician in Chicago with barely two dimes to rub together. While riding her bike she wiped out and injured her shoulder, requiring surgery. The hospital not only provided excellent treatment notwithstanding her lack of insurance, it set up a reasonable payment plan and she was able to pay the bill over time with no difficulty.

The problem now is that so many people - especially the young - believe they shouldn't have to pay anything at all for medical care. One of my nephews is like that. A few years ago when he was in his 20s and had no insurance, he was treated for some medical problem. When the bill came, he whined and complained that it wasn't fair that he should have to pay because it's not his fault he got sick. I expect he's signed up for O'care by now. Good luck with all that!  **nononono*

Not only that, but there is an option for people who find they have medical bills they simply cannot pay:  bankruptcy.  That is time-honored, perfectly acceptable way of dealing with overwhelming debt, and someone who incurred huge medical bills because they lacked insurance will usually be the prototypical honest but unfortunate debtor for whom the bankruptcy laws were enacted.

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Re: OBAMACARE MELTDOWN IN MASSACHUSETTS
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2014, 08:28:45 PM »
The sad truth is someone without insurance is likely to get even better care than if they had medicaid...... show up at any emergency room or call and ambulance and insurance is secondary - saving your life is primary.

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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2014, 08:31:01 PM »
yep...they screwed the pooch so badly in Massachusetts that they are actually worse than Oregon.....

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Re: OBAMACARE MELTDOWN IN MASSACHUSETTS
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2014, 08:34:21 PM »
When I get statements from the hospital, there is a page asking if you need help paying, and a form to fill out. If you are low income, they will set up a payment plan.

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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2014, 08:59:53 PM »
yep...they screwed the pooch so badly in Massachusetts that they are actually worse than Oregon.....

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Re: OBAMACARE MELTDOWN IN MASSACHUSETTS
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2014, 10:56:55 PM »
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