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Liberal-Turned-Conservative Talk Radio Host Excoriates Modern-Day Feminism
Feb. 14, 2014 8:25am Billy Hallowell   

Talk radio host Tammy Bruce, an openly gay conservative, has a long and complex history when it comes to her views on political and social issues. One of those is feminism, a movement she now says liberals have tarnished and turned into a “shell” of its former self.
Image source: Tammy Bruce's (@HeyTammyBruce) Twitter account

Conservative talk radio host Tammy Bruce (Image source: Tammy Bruce via Twitter)

Once a staffer on numerous Democratic campaigns and a member of the National Organization for Women’s national board of directors, Bruce eventually traded in her left-of-center worldview and became a conservative.

Now, she’s not afraid to take on modern-day feminism, saying the movement has been plagued by politicization and, as a result, has drifted away from its original purpose.

Feminism in America, Bruce said in an interview with TheBlaze, really started with the push to allow women to vote. While the 19th Amendment guaranteeing this right was first presented in 1848, it wasn’t until 1920 that it finally gained passage.

“This was ‘the’ victory of the movement. Guaranteeing women the right to vote obviously set the foundation, giving women a voice politically and socially,” Bruce said. “While this was the significant achievement, this first wave of the feminist movement also changed laws and societal barriers.”

Until feminism’s first wave, from 1848 to 1960, married women couldn’t own property, manage their own wages, sign contracts — and most couldn’t achieve higher education. It was the early feminists who changed that dynamic, Bruce said.

But men, too, played a role.

“While the women involved in the suffrage movement were arguably the first modern and organized feminists in America, their work was ultimately successful because men made it possible.” she said. “Yes, women agitated and organized, but the men in power, in Congress, voted to change the system, granting women suffrage.”

When it comes to feminism’s second wave, from 1960 to 1990, Bruce pointed out that abortion is generally the only prominent issue that is spoken about. But lawsuits, organizing and lobbying led to some other monumental benefits and social changes for women.

“The ‘unspoken rule’ banning girls from becoming [now defunct] congressional pages finally ended in 1973 with the acceptance of the first female page only after a protest by young feminists, fair hiring practices and paid maternity leave were accomplished, newspapers were forced to end sex-segregated ‘help wanted’ ads, previously ‘male only’ jobs were finally opened to women, shuttle flights between New York and Washington D.C. stopped banning women, et cetera.,” she said.

But with the good came what Bruce described as politicization from leftist forces. Ironically, she believes that women need the conservative ideal to attain financial freedom, so she finds the movement’s purported political sway to the left confounding.

“Historically, like a parasite, the left attaches itself to genuine social movements, rides them to power and ends up destroying not only the special interest groups at issue, but very often society itself,” she explained. “The feminist movement was not immune from that trajectory.”

What is left of the movement, she claims, is “the shell” of what it formerly represented. Today, she believes left-of-center feminists rely on victimhood — something she believes is a result of liberal allegiance.

“The left needs an enemy with which to divide the country and control its own base, and the easiest enemy, of course, is the immediate opposite of the constituency at issue,” Bruce said. “For blacks, it’s whites, for gays it’s straights, for women, men were painted as the enemy.”

As for this latter point, Bruce believes that modern feminists made a fatal mistake: cutting men out of the equation and labeling them the enemy. Men, she claims, made victory and progress possible for women, noting that it was a man who invented birth control, a development lauded for offering sexual freedom.

Bruce argued that the feminism that is practiced today is quite different from what she called “authentic feminism.”

“Authentic feminism requires all doors to be unlocked, encouraging women to make choices that best suit them. Leftists can have nothing to do with that, working instead to demonize choices women might make that involve family,” she said. “In order to survive, the left must be successful in keeping women away from men, away from family, children, and the larger American experience.”

To fix feminism, Bruce said that young women need to be shown the difference between genuine feminism and leftist politics. Conservatives, too, play a role, as she argued that they should push back and “claim the mantle of feminism.”

In a new video on conservative radio host Dennis Prager’s Prager University titled “Feminism 2.0,” Bruce tackled the ins and outs of the women’s rights movement, further delving into her central thesis that what was once a respectable and vibrant movement has been hijacked by liberals who have taken it far off course.

Watch it below:

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So, what does she think about abortion — the contentious issue that has become a centerpiece of the feminist movement?

Bruce, who opposes legislation that would ban abortion, told TheBlaze she has nothing favorable to say about the procedure, saying there is no excuse for women to seek an abortion considering the birth control methods that are available in the modern era.

“During my time as a feminist organizer, I was appalled at the argument that abortion was something to be proud of, and confronted those who espoused that absurdity,” she said. “Some argued then and to this day, that abortion is somehow empowering. Nothing could be further from the truth. It is a failure in every sense.”

Bruce added, “The modern feminist movement abandoned young women when they chose to romanticize abortion.”
“The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.” G Washington July 2, 1776

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Re: Liberal-Turned-Conservative Talk Radio Host Excoriates Modern-Day Feminism
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2014, 05:03:52 PM »
Smart woman. Heard her a few times on radio. Her message about empowering the individual is one that young women should hear.
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Re: Liberal-Turned-Conservative Talk Radio Host Excoriates Modern-Day Feminism
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2014, 05:15:43 PM »
Smart woman. Heard her a few times on radio. Her message about empowering the individual is one that young women should hear.

And the fact she was a member of NOW makes her message even more powerful - same with Oceander on The Blaze  - a former feminist and Democrat turned home-schooling conservative.
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Re: Liberal-Turned-Conservative Talk Radio Host Excoriates Modern-Day Feminism
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2014, 05:46:40 AM »
Never understood how any feminist worthy of the name could be anything other than conservative.
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Re: Liberal-Turned-Conservative Talk Radio Host Excoriates Modern-Day Feminism
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2014, 08:35:42 AM »
There is one thing i don't understand is the following: The feminazis was against porn, but now they are quiet about it....
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Re: Liberal-Turned-Conservative Talk Radio Host Excoriates Modern-Day Feminism
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2014, 09:09:44 AM »
There is one thing i don't understand is the following: The feminazis was against porn, but now they are quiet about it....

I can tell you what I have heard about porn from feminist college profs who are colleagues of mine.  They say that the reason they no longer oppose pornography vociferously is that they do not want to close off the opportunity for a woman to use her sexuality to get ahead in the world.  According to this thinking, women have many potential avenues to success, and leveraging one's good looks has been a traditional avenue for women, so they don't want to close that off.  This is also why they don't criticize Victoria's Secret.  What VS is ultimately selling is power over men.  From the feminist perspective, power over men is a good thing, however you can get it.  At least that's what they say.

The truth is the feminist movement is closely aligned to other leftist movements.  They cannot criticize the entertainment industry in any way, shape or form.  So instead they attack Christians.

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Re: Liberal-Turned-Conservative Talk Radio Host Excoriates Modern-Day Feminism
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2014, 09:21:02 AM »
Smart woman. Heard her a few times on radio. Her message about empowering the individual is one that young women should hear.

Why limit that to young women? I'm in favor of empowering the individual period!

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Re: Liberal-Turned-Conservative Talk Radio Host Excoriates Modern-Day Feminism
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2014, 09:24:32 AM »
I can tell you what I have heard about porn from feminist college profs who are colleagues of mine.  They say that the reason they no longer oppose pornography vociferously is that they do not want to close off the opportunity for a woman to use her sexuality to get ahead in the world.  According to this thinking, women have many potential avenues to success, and leveraging one's good looks has been a traditional avenue for women, so they don't want to close that off.  This is also why they don't criticize Victoria's Secret.  What VS is ultimately selling is power over men.  From the feminist perspective, power over men is a good thing, however you can get it.  At least that's what they say.

The truth is the feminist movement is closely aligned to other leftist movements.  They cannot criticize the entertainment industry in any way, shape or form.  So instead they attack Christians.

Most of the feminist professors I know would be WELL advised to stay FAR away from Victoria's Secret! Just sayin!  :bolt:

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Re: Liberal-Turned-Conservative Talk Radio Host Excoriates Modern-Day Feminism
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2014, 09:30:12 AM »
Most of the feminist professors I know would be WELL advised to stay FAR away from Victoria's Secret! Just sayin!  :bolt:

No doubt.  I think there is an inverse relationship between a woman's preference for "Victoria's Secret" and "The Vagina Monologues."   I gotta say there are a lot of women out there whose monologues on their vaginas I could probably sit and listen to all day.  But none of them seem willing to talk about their vaginas.  It's always the ones whose vaginas you'd rather not know about.
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Re: Liberal-Turned-Conservative Talk Radio Host Excoriates Modern-Day Feminism
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2014, 09:35:02 AM »
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openly gay conservative

(1) openly gay, and

(2) conservative.

Which trumps which?  Can she ever really be a conservative?
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Re: Liberal-Turned-Conservative Talk Radio Host Excoriates Modern-Day Feminism
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2014, 09:38:31 AM »
No doubt.  I think there is an inverse relationship between a woman's preference for "Victoria's Secret" and "The Vagina Monologues."   I gotta say there are a lot of women out there whose monologues on their vaginas I could probably sit and listen to all day.  But none of them seem willing to talk about their vaginas.  It's always the ones whose vaginas you'd rather not know about.

ROFLMFAO!!!!!

Now that there is PHUNNY! I don't care WHO you are!

On a serious note however, I think that what we have said in this little exchange has a LOT to do with the woman who is the subject of this thread (Tammy Bruce) and the other one who's name has been brought up (Oceander Loesch) leaving the feminist movement!  Neither of them are hard on the eyes and,  I suspect, saw quite a bit of resentment surface from their former associates in the feminist movement because of that!
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Re: Liberal-Turned-Conservative Talk Radio Host Excoriates Modern-Day Feminism
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2014, 10:12:18 AM »
openly gay

I watched her video on Prager U. recently and within a day or 2 heard him interview her on the radio.  Until now, I didn't know she was gay.  Would that all the other homosexuals would follow her example and not lead the conversation with a stranger (or perhaps millions of them) with an announcement of their sexual preferences.
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Re: Liberal-Turned-Conservative Talk Radio Host Excoriates Modern-Day Feminism
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2014, 12:11:27 PM »
I watched her video on Prager U. recently and within a day or 2 heard him interview her on the radio.  Until now, I didn't know she was gay.  Would that all the other homosexuals would follow her example and not lead the conversation with a stranger (or perhaps millions of them) with an announcement of their sexual preferences.


Amen to that.  I really don't care what a person foes in the bedroom or who they do it with, just don't shove in my face day in and day out.  I knew Tammy is gay,but she's not in your,face about it.
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Re: Liberal-Turned-Conservative Talk Radio Host Excoriates Modern-Day Feminism
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2014, 12:14:35 PM »
Massaging, that was funny...  Interesting from the male perspective that we use our,sexuality to control over man, I always used it to please my man and make him proud to be with me.
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