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Re: Tea party groups are making and spending millions, but not on candidates
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2014, 01:21:24 PM »
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Re: Tea party groups are making and spending millions, but not on candidates
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2014, 01:25:20 PM »
Social breakdown.

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Re: Tea party groups are making and spending millions, but not on candidates
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2014, 02:00:29 PM »
How much is Jenny Beth stuffing in her Spanx? 

No wonder she stays in such high dudgeon.  Anger is good for business.
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Re: Tea party groups are making and spending millions, but not on candidates
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2014, 02:03:17 PM »
Spanx, really? Let's try to think about something other than women's underwear here. The future of our nation is at risk.
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Re: Tea party groups are making and spending millions, but not on candidates
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2014, 02:03:20 PM »
How much is Jenny Beth stuffing in her Spanx? 

No wonder she stays in such high dudgeon.  Anger is good for business.

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Re: Tea party groups are making and spending millions, but not on candidates
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2014, 03:10:50 PM »
I was wrong about you Sink! You are NOT Karl Rove!

Your are Dave Carney!

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Re: Tea party groups are making and spending millions, but not on candidates
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2014, 03:23:18 PM »
Thoughtful TP movement members would demand the same fiscal accountability of their leaders, that they rightfully want from the US government.


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Re: Tea party groups are making and spending millions, but not on candidates
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2014, 03:42:38 PM »
Thoughtful TP movement members would demand the same fiscal accountability of their leaders, that they rightfully want from the US government.

Pay attention from about 1:40 seconds into the video, and see if you can see relevance to your statement in what Friedman is saying.

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Re: Tea party groups are making and spending millions, but not on candidates
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2014, 03:48:06 PM »
Good post, Luis. Frankly I wish the current people at NRO would review more of their founders words.

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Re: Tea party groups are making and spending millions, but not on candidates
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2014, 04:08:41 PM »
Pay attention from about 1:40 seconds into the video, and see if you can see relevance to your statement in what Friedman is saying.

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If I could I would ensure that everyone in this country saw that video again and again until what Dr Friedman says soaked in!

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Re: Tea party groups are making and spending millions, but not on candidates
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2014, 04:45:09 PM »
Good post, Luis. Frankly I wish the current people at NRO would review more of their founders words.

NRO was founded by William F. Buckley, Jr.

Friedman was an early contributor to NRO, but not a founder.

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Re: Tea party groups are making and spending millions, but not on candidates
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2014, 05:02:52 PM »
NRO was founded by William F. Buckley, Jr.

Friedman was an early contributor to NRO, but not a founder.

Sorry, yes you are correct.  But NRO is still a mere shadow of the founding days.








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Re: Tea party groups are making and spending millions, but not on candidates
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2014, 05:07:55 PM »
If I could I would ensure that everyone in this country saw that video again and again until what Dr Friedman says soaked in!

The point I was trying to make here, is that we should never forget that (as Friedman points out) irrespective of the ideological foundations that all politicians from far right to far left of the political spectrum claim to stand on, the real driving force behind their actions is a desire to garner power that can be wielded by force of government.

Believing that any political organization is up and running out of sheer noble intentions, because they spout out the things that we want to hear is simply silly. They KNOW that the way to power is paved via the support they get by parroting the very things that a group of people say and/or think, right back at them.
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Re: Tea party groups are making and spending millions, but not on candidates
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2014, 05:10:36 PM »
I was wrong about you Sink! You are NOT Karl Rove!

Your are Dave Carney!

I'll take that as a compliment.

Dave Carney was behind Rick Perry's rise and successful campaigns and is on track to make Greg Abbott then next Texas governor.
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Re: Tea party groups are making and spending millions, but not on candidates
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2014, 08:39:56 PM »
The point I was trying top make here, is that we should never forget that (as Friedman points out) irrespective of the ideological foundations that all politicians from far right to far left of the political spectrum claim to stand on, the real driving force behind their actions is a desire to garner power that can be wielded by force of government.

Believing that any political organization is up and running out of sheer noble intentions, because they spout out the things that we want to hear is simply silly. They KNOW that the way to power is paved via the support they get by parroting the very things that a group of people say and/or think, right back at them.

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Re: Tea party groups are making and spending millions, but not on candidates
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2014, 08:54:53 PM »
I'll take that as a compliment.

Dave Carney was behind Rick Perry's rise and successful campaigns and is on track to make Greg Abbott then next Texas governor.

He was also very much behind the Rick Perry debacle of a presidential run!

Nuff said!

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Re: Tea party groups are making and spending millions, but not on candidates
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2014, 09:53:16 PM »
He was also very much behind the Rick Perry debacle of a presidential run!

Nuff said!

Rick Perry's the one who screwed that up with his "oops." 

You don't like Rick Perry?  He's been one of the best governors Texas has ever had.

You don't like anybody.  Hope you don't have a dog.
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Re: Tea party groups are making and spending millions, but not on candidates
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2014, 03:01:01 AM »
Good post, Luis. Frankly I wish the current people at NRO would review more of their founders words.
I knew if I read long enough I find something we could agree on.  Milton Friedman is all that and a bag of chips.  He totally decimated Donahue.
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Re: Tea party groups are making and spending millions, but not on candidates
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2014, 05:46:32 AM »
Rick Perry's the one who screwed that up with his "oops." 

You don't like Rick Perry?  He's been one of the best governors Texas has ever had.

You don't like anybody.  Hope you don't have a dog.

Never said I don't like Rick Perry!  I think he has served Texas well but if he wants to move beyond being the governor of Texas he had better learn to talk about the things he really believes instead of listening to idiots like Dave Carney!

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Re: Tea party groups are making and spending millions, but not on candidates
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2014, 07:00:34 AM »
Pay attention from about 1:40 seconds into the video, and see if you can see relevance to your statement in what Friedman is saying.

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