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Offline mystery-ak

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« on: February 12, 2014, 09:05:08 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2014, 09:25:27 PM »
yep...they had Ike all the way up in the Persian Gulf, and believe me she was 100% tasked right where she was not to mention it is one hell of a long way to Benghazi from there; and Enterprise which was just relieved and on her way back to be decommissioned.  This was her last cruise.

That left exactly three frickin' destroyers in and around the Mediterranean on the anniversary of 9/11 with all hell breaking loose all over the place.  They are aviation capable but that means they have an ASW helo onboard and that's it.

As I have said repeatedly here...the only thing that kept a cork in the Muslim extremists in the Middle East was the presence of a US aircraft carrier task force.  We used to have the ability to have fighters over any trouble spot in the Med in a matter of hours.  I was on Ike when we launched fighters for Beirut as soon as we cleared the Straits of Messina.  There could have been fighters over Benghazi before the attack was over had there been a carrier present.  Had there been a carrier present in the Gulf of Sidra the attack might have never taken place at all. With the carrier task force comes Senior staff and near instant communications with anyplace in the World....but if the damned thing is tied to the pier hosting College basketball games in the hangarbay, like USS Carl Vinson did right around this very time, then there isn't a damned thing you can do even if you wanted to.

At one time the first question out of the President's mouth in a crisis was "Where is the nearest carrier?".  Not any more, and Benghazi is the direct result.

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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2014, 11:11:10 PM »
Good post, Chief.

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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2014, 01:10:35 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2014, 01:20:00 PM »
I get so pissed off when talking about this that I loose my composure!

Our people in Benghazi were not merely left to fend for themselves! They were actively BETRAYED!

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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2014, 02:45:44 PM »
Fine - that's the Navy. What about the fighter wings in Sicily, in Goia, in Bari, and in Jordan. All with laser guided missiles. All within an hour or so of Benghazi - a bit less if they gated the throttles and refueled in the air on the way back.
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2014, 04:10:55 PM »
Fine - that's the Navy. What about the fighter wings in Sicily, in Goia, in Bari, and in Jordan. All with laser guided missiles. All within an hour or so of Benghazi - a bit less if they gated the throttles and refueled in the air on the way back.

Absolutely! And I'll assure you that there were other assets in the region as well but we'll not speak of those!

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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2014, 04:14:12 PM »
This is a repeat thread from yesterday, and you really don't want to get me started on this all overagain.  Like Bigun, I am near profanity about this.....

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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2014, 04:21:34 PM »
This is a repeat thread from yesterday, and you really don't want to get me started on this all overagain.  Like Bigun, I am near profanity about this.....

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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2014, 05:26:48 PM »
Absolutely! And I'll assure you that there were other assets in the region as well but we'll not speak of those!

Or they could have nicely asked either the French, British or Italian forces in the area - none of us mind doing a favor for a friend in need, and both the UK and Italy had boots on the ground at the time.
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