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Germans displeased by Victoria Nuland gaffe
« on: February 07, 2014, 04:59:43 PM »

Germans displeased by Victoria Nuland gaffe

This video appears to feature a phone call by U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland to Geoffrey Pyatt, U.S. ambassador to Ukraine. Caution: Video contains profanity.

By Anthony Faiola, Updated: Friday, February 7, 1:58 PM

BERLIN — Germans were already smarting from revelations that U.S. intelligence listened in on the phone conversations of Chancellor Angela Merkel. Then came Nulandgate.

On Thursday, a video was posted on YouTube in which Victoria Nuland, the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, disparagingly dismissed European Union efforts to mediate the ongoing crisis in the Ukraine by bluntly saying, “F--- the E.U.” On Friday, Merkel, through press attache Christiane Wirtz, described the gaffe as “absolutely unacceptable,” and defended the efforts of Catherine Ashton, the E.U.’s foreign policy chief.

Protests against government continue in Ukraine: Protesters and riot place clashed in Kiev, the Ukrainian capital. Meanwhile, Ukraine’s parliament was considering measures to grant amnesty to those arrested during protests that have gone on since November.

“The chancellor finds these remarks absolutely unacceptable and wants to emphasize that Mrs. Ashton is doing an outstanding job,” Wirtz said.

Still freshly furious over the phone-tapping scandals, Germans took to Twitter and other social media in a litany of bitter comments. “Since we know now that the leadership circles in the #USA don’t give a s--- about Europe, we should just stop the Free Trade Agreement,” came one Tweet from @kl1lercher, referring to ongoing negotiations to forge a transatlantic free trade deal. Meanwhile, a spokesman for the German foreign ministry told a media briefing Friday that "this just goes to show once more that wiretapping is stupid.”

[Read a quick guide to who’s who on the call]

Some German media, however, were quick to warn against overreaction. Der Spiegel online published an opinion column titled “Relax, Europe.”

“Europe should simply laugh about the American F-word,” the outlet said in an editorial that also offered a critique of the E.U.’s diplomatic efforts in the Ukraine. “Some humor would do no harm to the transatlantic relationship at the moment.”

In Brussels, E.U. officials remained publicly mum. Though the story played big across the continent, the official response beyond Germany appeared relatively muted. But the Germans were not only ones smarting. Reactions among Austrian members of the European Parliament ranged from outrage to schadenfreude.

“Victoria Nuland must step down after these remarks, otherwise there has to be a suspension of negotiations about the E.U.-U.S. free trade agreement,” Jörg Leichtfried, leader of the Austrian Social Democratic delegation in the European Parliament, told the Austrian press agency APA, according to the daily Die Presse. “Ms. Nuland, with such remarks, is a complete miscast for her office and not able anymore to mediate between the E.U. and the U.S. in a positive manner.”

Nuland quickly apologized for the comments, with the United States pointing the finger Thursday at the Russians for recording and posting her private conversations with U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt.

“We have a long and enduring relationship with Germany,” State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in Washington. She noted that Secretary of State John F. Kerry was in Germany last week.

“We expect we’ll be back to business as usual with them as well,” Psaki said.

Nevertheless, analysts said the unscripted moment served to underscore a serious point: the increasingly strained nature of the U.S. relationship with continental Europe — and, first and foremost, with Germany. In the aftermath of the exposure by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden of U.S. intelligence-gathering efforts in the region, distrust of the American agenda in Germany has markedly jumped.

Experts say the image of the United States has deeply suffered, with the Nuland gaffe reinforcing perceptions of American heavy-handedness at a highly sensitive time. This week, for instance, the Sueddeutsche Zeitung newspaper published fresh allegations that the United States had wiretapped former German chancellor Gerhard Schröder. In response, Schröder gave an interview to the Bild newspaper in which he said, “The U.S. has no respect for a loyal ally and for the sovereignty of our country.”

Olaf Boehnke, head of the Berlin office of the European Council on Foreign Relations, said the gaffe could not have come at a worst time. To some extent, German officials — particularly Merkel — have sought to put the wiretapping scandal behind them, pragmatically attempting to move forward and mend the transatlantic relationship. Nuland’s comments, he said, had just made that effort more difficult, particularly with the increasingly skeptical German public.

“It was really the worst thing that could happen; Germans will be going home tonight to discuss this at dinner,” Boehnke said. “It fits into a broader picture that German people have of the U.S. betraying the trust in them.”
“The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.” G Washington July 2, 1776

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Re: Germans displeased by Victoria Nuland gaffe
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2014, 05:01:39 PM »
This woman never, ever, should have been confirmed, but the wimps in the GOP punted on even questioning her about her involvement in changing the Benghazi talking points and more... this is one more case of the GOP being as corrupt as the DEMs and promoting incompetent people .

I would add also another reason I don't watch THE FIVE anymore - Oceander Perino was soooooo supportive of "wonderful Nuland" - blech........
“The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.” G Washington July 2, 1776

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Re: Germans displeased by Victoria Nuland gaffe
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2014, 05:10:17 PM »
yah....State is putting out that when she was younger she worked on a Russian fishing boat and picked up some salty language there.....

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Re: Germans displeased by Victoria Nuland gaffe
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2014, 08:32:35 AM »
Merkel hits US envoy over ‘F— the EU’ jab
By Geoff Earle/NY Post
February 8, 2014 | 2:53am

WASHINGTON — German Chancellor Angela Merkel hit back at a US diplomat who got caught on a recording using the f-word to mock the European Union for taking a soft stance on the tense situation in Ukraine.

“The chancellor considers this statement absolutely unacceptable,” said a Merkel spokeswoman.

Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland got caught in a recorded phone conversation about the tense situation in Ukraine, saying “F— the EU” in her discussion with the US ambassador to that country.

The Obama administration charged that the Russians intercepted the call after a Kremlin official tweeted a link to it.

“I will not comment on a private diplomatic conversation,” Nuland told reporters in Kiev, Ukraine, Friday after apologizing.

“It was pretty impressive tradecraft,” she added. “Audio quality was very good.”
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Re: Germans displeased by Victoria Nuland gaffe
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2014, 08:44:51 AM »
This is just one more example in a long line of gaffes from the gang that couldn't shoot straight.  It emanates from the top; specifically, our first affirmative action CIC.
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