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Offline Rapunzel

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Have Environmentalists Blundered on Keystone?
« on: February 07, 2014, 12:03:48 AM »

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Re: Have Environmentalists Blundered on Keystone?
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2014, 12:12:44 AM »
Something has always bugged me about this whole Keystone pipeline thing.

You are assuming that the Canadians are willing to sell their oil to you. Why should they?

They have firm commitments from the Chinese, and the pipelines to the coast will allow them to sell to anyone in the Pacific that wants to buy. Basically, the USA has nothing to offer now. The time has passed.
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Re: Have Environmentalists Blundered on Keystone?
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2014, 12:18:23 AM »
Something has always bugged me about this whole Keystone pipeline thing.

You are assuming that the Canadians are willing to sell their oil to you. Why should they?

They have firm commitments from the Chinese, and the pipelines to the coast will allow them to sell to anyone in the Pacific that wants to buy. Basically, the USA has nothing to offer now. The time has passed.

The Canadians WANT to sell the oil to us for two reasons. One proximity to the USA from the area of the oil sands, but also because to run the pipeline to the Pacific Coast to ship to China actually would run through some of the most environmentally pristine area in the Canadian NW.    It is much more advantageous to send it here.......... for everyone concerned, but the Chinese.  The southern leg of the pipeline is completed, we just need the connection from Canada... which need approval since it is across international borders..
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Re: Have Environmentalists Blundered on Keystone?
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2014, 12:23:06 AM »
Canada and the US are #1 trading partners, usually go to war together, guard North America together.

We are also closely, family wise. I have cousins in Canada on both parents' sides.

Canada would prefer selling to us.
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Re: Have Environmentalists Blundered on Keystone?
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2014, 12:28:58 AM »
Of course they'd have preferred to! Let's face it, apart from that little misunderstanding in 1812, the USA and Canada have always got along rather well. But after 5 years of stonewalling, and the Chinese buying up 25% of the oil sands producers, the pipeline no longer appeals.
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