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Offline happyg

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« on: February 04, 2014, 06:16:53 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2014, 06:32:30 PM »
Powerful. Accurate.

Thanks for this.
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2014, 08:13:07 PM »
The author appears to make the (serious) mistake of thinking that all marriages - that is, all marriages that are recognized as such by civil law - are religious in nature, that is, were sanctified by a pastor.  This is not the case.  In 2003 USA Today published an article stating/claiming that approximately 40% of all marriages in the US in 2001 were civil marriages - that is, a marriage not sanctified by any religious institution and existing solely by virtue of the marriage license issued by the state government.  (1) I rather doubt the trend has reversed itself since then, and (2) even if we discount that figure by 20% (i.e., 20% of 40%, not 20 percentage points), we still get a rate of civil marriage of about 32%.

Since civil marriages by definition don't have any connection to a religious institution, they aren't unions forged before God, they're unions forged before the county clerk or some other municipal functionary.  To the extent those same unions are dissolved without quibble by the civil authorities, that is a matter for the civil authority alone.

On a personal note.  The best thing that ever happened to my mother was her divorce from my father.  Now, don't get me wrong, I have a pretty decent relationship with my father, who isn't such a bad fellow, but he does have some personality flaws and being married to those personality flaws was not good for my mother (pops' eyes weren't the only things that roved and what he really needed was someone strong enough to manage him and keep him in line; his late second wife - who was an absolute sweetheart - was just such a person).  Divorce freed my mother to become the person she could be, and I would not have anyone take that away - from her or from anyone else now or in the future.

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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2014, 10:53:02 AM »
Here's a question.

If a West Virginia same-sex couple gets a divorce, will they still be brothers?

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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2014, 12:17:36 PM »
Here's a question.

If a West Virginia same-sex couple gets a divorce, will they still be brothers?

Or first cousins?

Offline aligncare

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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2014, 01:15:25 PM »
Here's a question.

If a West Virginia same-sex couple gets a divorce, will they still be brothers?

Or first cousins?

Ow. Don't we have a few West Virginia folks here? Stand up for your state against such an unwarranted scurrilous attack!
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2014, 01:41:34 PM »
Here's a question.

If a West Virginia same-sex couple gets a divorce, will they still be brothers?

Hate to correct you, but the correct question is, will either of them each have a double strand of DNA?
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2014, 01:47:30 PM »
Hate to correct you, but the correct question is, will either of them each have a double strand of DNA?

That depends on how the court divvies up the marital property, doesn't it?

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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2014, 01:50:33 PM »
Ow. Don't we have a few West Virginia folks here? Stand up for your state against such an unwarranted scurrilous attack!
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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2014, 01:51:30 PM »
That depends on how the court divvies up the marital property, doesn't it?

Would that division be left side/right side of the trailer, or front end/back end?
« Last Edit: February 06, 2014, 02:35:06 PM by Luis Gonzalez »


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