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Obama's plan for social engineering housing in the United States
« on: February 01, 2014, 07:06:23 AM »
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Re: Obama's plan for social engineering housing in the United States
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2014, 01:06:34 PM »
HUD already started this in New York State.. Westchester county.  I am stunned though that welfare now counts as income to buy a home...
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Re: Obama's plan for social engineering housing in the United States
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2014, 02:02:57 PM »
Heck, I'm waiting for him to decide that Mr. M and I have "more house than we need," and he either forces us out (in favor of a family of 8) or requires us to take in Section 8-type tenants.  :whistle:
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Re: Obama's plan for social engineering housing in the United States
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2014, 02:05:41 PM »
The poor need houses? One food stamps and can't afford one?

Come to Detroit!

Houses from as low as a dollar.
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Re: Obama's plan for social engineering housing in the United States
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2014, 02:09:30 PM »
The "invisible hand" renders homes in Detroit almost worthless.

Obama would invest other peoples' money, to make them "healthy homes."

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Re: Obama's plan for social engineering housing in the United States
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2014, 02:09:34 PM »
Speaking of food stamps, I just stopped in Aldi to pick up a couple of items and was behind a family in the check-out line. Healthy-looking father, mother, children - and their order of about $160 was paid for with the ubiquitous EBT card. Presumably, that covered the giant family-size package of assorted snacks (potato chips, etc.), Slim Jim-type jerky and the like.

And they didn't even thank me for buying their groceries!
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Re: Obama's plan for social engineering housing in the United States
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2014, 02:15:08 PM »
Speaking of food stamps, I just stopped in Aldi to pick up a couple of items and was behind a family in the check-out line. Healthy-looking father, mother, children - and their order of about $160 was paid for with the ubiquitous EBT card. Presumably, that covered the giant family-size package of assorted snacks (potato chips, etc.), Slim Jim-type jerky and the like.

And they didn't even thank me for buying their groceries!

At least you can tell. Here - nope. It's a bank card, like every other card. Drawn on the post office, but a lot of people have post office accounts, they are convenient. The dole, child benefit, housing allowance, etc. gets loaded straight into the account.
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Re: Obama's plan for social engineering housing in the United States
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2014, 05:27:22 PM »
Speaking of food stamps, I just stopped in Aldi to pick up a couple of items and was behind a family in the check-out line. Healthy-looking father, mother, children - and their order of about $160 was paid for with the ubiquitous EBT card. Presumably, that covered the giant family-size package of assorted snacks (potato chips, etc.), Slim Jim-type jerky and the like.

And they didn't even thank me for buying their groceries!

You mean they also didn't have lobster and T Bone steaks?  Since they didn't spend it on such things maybe they went to a casino with the card.
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Re: Obama's plan for social engineering housing in the United States
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2014, 06:34:04 PM »
The poor need houses? One food stamps and can't afford one?

Come to Detroit!

Houses from as low as a dollar.

This new HUD-driven plan is to move them into upscale neighborhoods and if the upscale neighborhoods don't have low-cost (ie almost free) housing HUD is going to require them to build it or convert existing housing into housing for the poor..... so the people who love to park a dozen broken down old junk cars in the yards, party day and night because unlike the rest of us they don't have to work are moving into places like Beverly Hills - the Government is mandating it.  The mayor of the upscale town in New York HUD is making his first test case has vowed to fight this to the SCOTUS if need be - he said they have a lot of green space in their town for a reason - they LIKE low density - HUD has deemed their green space build-able space for the poor housing they want to move into their town. 

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Re: Obama's plan for social engineering housing in the United States
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2014, 06:58:25 PM »
So - more Projects. That has worked so well the last dozen times, after all.

The Detroit thing was a joke - but it'd work, if you think about it. You don't want to work? You want to trash your own nest? You live here until you learn better.
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Re: Obama's plan for social engineering housing in the United States
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2014, 07:01:55 PM »
So - more Projects. That has worked so well the last dozen times, after all.

The Detroit thing was a joke - but it'd work, if you think about it. You don't want to work? You want to trash your own nest? You live here until you learn better.

This time more projects - but with a twist - the more expensive your current neighborhood - you know the neighborhoods with gates to keep the crime and riff-raff out?  The riff-raff now has to be welcomed into your neighborhood per HUD -- oh and I almost forgot - they are actually going to do lotteries in the inner cities to choose your new neighbors...  the whole thing is so insidious it would "almost" be funny if it wasn't so darned socialist...   BTW the Democrats think this will help turn the predominantly Republican burbs - blue.

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Re: Obama's plan for social engineering housing in the United States
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2014, 09:25:17 AM »
If you really are interested in what this is all about, search Agenda 21 and in a few minutes you will see the answer. :doa:
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Re: Obama's plan for social engineering housing in the United States
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2014, 02:15:42 PM »
This time more projects - but with a twist - the more expensive your current neighborhood - you know the neighborhoods with gates to keep the crime and riff-raff out?  The riff-raff now has to be welcomed into your neighborhood per HUD -- oh and I almost forgot - they are actually going to do lotteries in the inner cities to choose your new neighbors...  the whole thing is so insidious it would "almost" be funny if it wasn't so darned socialist...   BTW the Democrats think this will help turn the predominantly Republican burbs - blue.
I think they were doing that sort of thing in Pittsburgh. My mother was afraid the Section 8 crowd was going to move into her suburban neighborhood.
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Re: Obama's plan for social engineering housing in the United States
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2014, 05:17:55 PM »
I think they were doing that sort of thing in Pittsburgh. My mother was afraid the Section 8 crowd was going to move into her suburban neighborhood.

The mayor of the town in New York where the Feds are pushing this was on Wilkow last week, they had a very detailed discussion of this - a lot of stuff we never hear on Fox and should.

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Re: Obama's plan for social engineering housing in the United States
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2014, 06:02:25 PM »
Speaking of food stamps, I just stopped in Aldi to pick up a couple of items and was behind a family in the check-out line. Healthy-looking father, mother, children - and their order of about $160 was paid for with the ubiquitous EBT card. Presumably, that covered the giant family-size package of assorted snacks (potato chips, etc.), Slim Jim-type jerky and the like.

And they didn't even thank me for buying their groceries!

You shouldn't judge people on the way people look healthwise.  I wish I was as healthy as I looked.  Granted, I'm not on welfare, EBT, Section 8, autos for deadbeats, phones for the poverty stricken, whatever.  You can't judge health by looks.  And yeah I'm mocking the programs for the less fortunate but when people take advantage it makes all those who may need assistance. 
Especially if you've worked for 25+ years and paid into benefits programs.
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Re: Obama's plan for social engineering housing in the United States
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2014, 06:32:36 PM »
If I judged anything, it was the fact that my tax dollars are going to pay for these peoples' snack foods, which are not a necessity. I didn't judge their health, just noted that they appeared healthy.

 I wouldn't mind food stamps if they were limited to a few essential items. Potato chips and Slim Jims should not be in that category.

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Re: Obama's plan for social engineering housing in the United States
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2014, 06:39:42 PM »
Never made hobo dip?  :laugh:

Chop up a Slim Jim. Throw it into a pan with a can of baked beans and a splash of milk. Eat with potato chips or bread.
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Re: Obama's plan for social engineering housing in the United States
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2014, 07:01:43 PM »
If I judged anything, it was the fact that my tax dollars are going to pay for these peoples' snack foods, which are not a necessity. I didn't judge their health, just noted that they appeared healthy.

 I wouldn't mind food stamps if they were limited to a few essential items. Potato chips and Slim Jims should not be in that category.

What are they supposed to buy/eat?  A federally approved checklist of proteins, vegetables and grains?  Let them eat what they want, die young and get off the planet.
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Re: Obama's plan for social engineering housing in the United States
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2014, 07:08:01 PM »
What are they supposed to buy/eat?  A federally approved checklist of proteins, vegetables and grains?  Let them eat what they want, die young and get off the planet.

people can eat whatever they want - on their own dime. On mine then it should be spam, mac and cheese and beans and franks.

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Re: Obama's plan for social engineering housing in the United States
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2014, 07:39:53 PM »
people can eat whatever they want - on their own dime. On mine then it should be spam, mac and cheese and beans and franks.

it is there dime.  your's was confiscated at threat of violence
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