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The Cruelty of Gun-Free Zones
« on: February 01, 2014, 11:23:48 AM »

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Re: The Cruelty of Gun-Free Zones
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2014, 11:26:01 AM »
The author may be missing the point that those who reign over us are more concerned with protecting themselves (against us) than they are with our ability to protect ourselves against dangerous felons

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Re: The Cruelty of Gun-Free Zones
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2014, 12:08:14 PM »
The author may be missing the point that those who reign over us are more concerned with protecting themselves (against us) than they are with our ability to protect ourselves against dangerous felons

Two sides to the coin. (And don't say, shut up you Brit, you don't know of what you speak. I've logged more time with more weapons than most.  :laugh: )

Self defence - good. It is not just an inalienable right, it is a duty to protect your family at all times and at all costs. A gun or two at home facilitates that. It's your home ground, you know where everyone is and you've logged the range time to be able to shoot straight and tight and reload in the dark. Your kids know gun safety rules and drills.

General defence - much trickier. While it is undeniable that gun crime goes down when gun ownership goes up, the pesky problem of innocent bystanders gets in the way. You ain't a cop, and don't have their general protections for mistakes.
Take Aurora, for example. Shooting in a dark theater. Unless you have had serious training, you would likely make the problem worse by pulling your piece and trying to get the shooter. Yes, I know the mere presence of a gun has been known to encourage the shooter to take their own life, but you can't rely on that.
Easy fix though - if you want a CCW, you don't just show range proficiency. You take an advanced tac course, prior to getting your CCW. It won't solve the "Will you shoot" problem, but it will partially solve the "Will you shoot the right person" problem.



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Re: The Cruelty of Gun-Free Zones
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Re: The Cruelty of Gun-Free Zones
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2014, 12:44:10 PM »
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Re: The Cruelty of Gun-Free Zones
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2014, 01:24:02 PM »
I completely agree that shooting and firearm safety should be taught in schools but...should be voluntary. Driving is a privilege. RKBA is a right. The Brit started to show just a little bit there   8888forgot

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Re: The Cruelty of Gun-Free Zones
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2014, 01:48:35 PM »
I completely agree that shooting and firearm safety should be taught in schools but...should be voluntary. Driving is a privilege. RKBA is a right. The Brit started to show just a little bit there   8888forgot

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Caught me. And yeah, a little. It's going to happen.  :laugh:

Though I can make the case for obligatory. Simply because it is a right, it should be taught to all. At the moment, if you want to exercise your right to bear arms, it's all on you to practice, take the safety classes, take tac classes (as we discussed above). If it is taught in schools, there is no doubt that it is a RIGHT. Also, as a side, it may reduce accidental gun deaths and that fear of guns a lot of people (Libs mainly) seem to have.
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