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Chris Christie responds to new bridge scandal allegations
« on: January 31, 2014, 07:27:09 PM »

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Re: Chris Christie responds to new bridge scandal allegations
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2014, 08:46:44 PM »
Nixon lied until almost the end, and look how that worked out.  I guess we wait and see what the truth is, if we ever do.

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Re: Chris Christie responds to new bridge scandal allegations
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2014, 08:53:52 PM »
Interesting to see if the GOPe circles the wagons around him .....  :pondering:
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Re: Chris Christie responds to new bridge scandal allegations
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2014, 09:19:26 PM »
Nixon lied until almost the end, and look how that worked out.  I guess we wait and see what the truth is, if we ever do.

Nixon had a host of other problems as well.

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Re: Chris Christie responds to new bridge scandal allegations
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2014, 09:26:30 PM »
Nixon had a host of other problems as well.
Landslide win in Nov. 1972, resigned in Aug. 1974. Big shift in his fortunes.

The fact was for him, he was never a popular and well liked man as a person.

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Re: Chris Christie responds to new bridge scandal allegations
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2014, 09:28:28 PM »
Nixon lied until almost the end, and look how that worked out.  I guess we wait and see what the truth is, if we ever do.

Obama makes Nixon look like a piker.  What Nixon did not have was a Congress willing to go along with him no matter what he said or did.  Big difference.


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Re: Chris Christie responds to new bridge scandal allegations
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2014, 09:29:01 PM »
Landslide win in Nov. 1972, resigned in Aug. 1974. Big shift in his fortunes.

The fact was for him, he was never a popular and well liked man as a person.

And, I think, for good reason; from what I can tell he was a bit too paranoid, amongst other things.  He also ended up displaying extremely poor judgment in choosing his closest advisors.

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Re: Chris Christie responds to new bridge scandal allegations
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2014, 09:30:46 PM »
Obama makes Nixon look like a piker.  What Nixon did not have was a Congress willing to go along with him no matter what he said or did.  Big difference.



Nixon also did not have a mass media that was not only willing to go along with him, but was actively complicit in covering up his wrong-doing.  If Nixon had had the mainstream media that Obama has, he would have finished out his term and retired with an unsullied reputation.

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Re: Chris Christie responds to new bridge scandal allegations
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2014, 09:52:27 PM »
Nixon also did not have a mass media that was not only willing to go along with him, but was actively complicit in covering up his wrong-doing.  If Nixon had had the mainstream media that Obama has, he would have finished out his term and retired with an unsullied reputation.
Nixon's dislike of the press was open, and when they got the reason, they murdered him with coverage.

Yet 6 years later a smarter politician Reagan made effective use of the press, never getting publicly "angry" like Nixon.

The press today would not treat another Reagan so kindly. But there hasn't been anybody since, to use the press, media, visuals like Reagan and his advisors/staff did.

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Re: Chris Christie responds to new bridge scandal allegations
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2014, 10:58:18 PM »
Nixon also did not have a mass media that was not only willing to go along with him, but was actively complicit in covering up his wrong-doing.  If Nixon had had the mainstream media that Obama has, he would have finished out his term and retired with an unsullied reputation.

It was one newspaper.  The Washington Post.

And that effing rag has ridden that wave not only to the shore.  They rode it all the way to where they rent the chairs and beach umbrellas.

Sure, the liberal media has protected Democrats a long time.  But compared to the MSM today, they were pikers.
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Re: Chris Christie responds to new bridge scandal allegations
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2014, 11:23:58 PM »
Am I the only one around here who gets a giggle over details? I mean, what are the odds a major bridge scandal is the result of someone named Bridget? What a coinkydink.
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Re: Chris Christie responds to new bridge scandal allegations
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Re: Chris Christie responds to new bridge scandal allegations
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2014, 09:33:41 AM »
Interesting to see if the GOPe circles the wagons around him .....  :pondering:

I think he's already got tire marks on his back from the bus the GOPe establishment has thrown him under (with the exception of RudyGiulliani).
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Re: Chris Christie responds to new bridge scandal allegations
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2014, 09:35:30 AM »
I think he's already got tire marks on his back from the bus the GOPe establishment has thrown him under.

He as good as jumped under that bus himself back in 2012, with his ill-considered embrace of Obama just before the election.  He's a very good political operator, but he occasionally shows flashes of extremely poor judgment, and the Obama affair and bridgegate are two examples.

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Re: Chris Christie responds to new bridge scandal allegations
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2014, 09:39:46 AM »
He as good as jumped under that bus himself back in 2012, with his ill-considered embrace of Obama just before the election.  He's a very good political operator, but he occasionally shows flashes of extremely poor judgment, and the Obama affair and bridgegate are two examples.

Of course....it couldn't just be that when he was the New Jersey shore tourist area completely destroyed and its residents homeless, he decided that in order to ensure FEMA wouldn't treat him like Oklahoma or Indiana and delay/deny federal assistance in a punitive fashion...he'd put on a pair of knee pads and 'take one for the team".

Personally, I think it's time for a GOP candidate to play hard ball with the opposition. 

Traffic cones my arse....I would have blown up the bridge.
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Re: Chris Christie responds to new bridge scandal allegations
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2014, 09:45:28 AM »
Of course....it couldn't just be that when he was the New Jersey shore tourist area completely destroyed and its residents homeless, he decided that in order to ensure FEMA wouldn't treat him like Oklahoma or Indiana and delay/deny federal assistance in a punitive fashion...he'd put on a pair of knee pads and 'take one for the team".

Personally, I think it's time for a GOP candidate to play hard ball with the opposition. 

Traffic cones my arse....I would have blown up the bridge.

Did he make that clear - at least in private to the GOP leadership - and to the Romney campaign team?  The facts suggest otherwise, which means that he most definitely isn't a team player.  Had he given the GOP - and Romney - fair warning, they - and we - could have been prepared with an appropriate response, perhaps we could have led with a pre-embrace response that would have urged Christie to make peace with Obama, at least temporarily, for the sake of the devastated people in NJ, which would have gone a long way to innoculate Romney's campaign against the really negative consequences that ended up happening.

No.  Christie jumped under that bus a long time ago.  That ship has sailed.  In fact, with some due, strategic, consideration, the democrats' existential need to trash Christie now may have done us a favor because it clears the field of these very potent landmines far enough from the next presidential election, that they won't even be old news by then.  Just consider what would have happened if the Christie juggernaut had rolled into the middle of 2016 with Christie as the GOP nominee, only to have these landmines start exploding?

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Re: Chris Christie responds to new bridge scandal allegations
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2014, 12:57:59 PM »
DC Christie not only embraced Obama, he made his prime convention speech all about himself and to make matters worse denied Romney fundraising from big money in NJ... He went out of his way to make sure Romney didn't win, while trying to play himself up... of course he wanted all the NJ Democrat Mayors support for his 're election, it was to make sure he won in a landslide so he could ride that horse into 2016...it was smoke and mirrors and his hubris has now blown up in his face.


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