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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2014, 03:13:08 pm »
You are so full of sheite that your eyes are turning brown!

Calling a dictator a dictator is simply speaking the TRUTH and that is NEVER a losing strategy! I wish to live to see a lot more of it!!

 :amen: If we just sit on our hands and don't say anything, including Cruz, etal, the people will wonder why they weren't warned.

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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2014, 03:24:51 pm »
Anybody to the left of Rand Paul is now considered an Obama supporter here by TPTB.

This is different than TOS ... how, exactly?

It is different, and here's why.

Back in the GWB days, TOS was full of free trade types who played the conservative purity game. I can't tell you how many times I was told to go back to the DU because I didn't favor wholesale movement of jobs to China, or some other similar issue. Those people were the right equivalent of the dogmatic leftists that we deride here.

What you see here, now is the unraveling of the GOP as the left with their fully compliant media beat conservatism and capitalism into the ground. There is a lot of anxiety and frustration. There are those that believe that supporting anyone who calls himself/herself Republican is the answer. Then there are those that don't see a dimes worth of difference between the establishment GOP and Democrats. We have no leadership, and very little hope of moving the country back to the right. That anxiety plays out here. It's a vent, it's a safety valve.

You and I aren't far apart in how we see things. What is starting to chap my behind is the posters who come in, hurl insults, tell everyone who doesn't agree with them they're stupid, sophomoric and just plain lacking sense. My anxiety level is as high as anyone's. While I don't let this anxiety affect my daily life, (that I'm aware of), I express it here. However, if someone were to be as insulting as those posters are, to my face, I'm not sure the result would be good for either of us.

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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2014, 03:36:46 pm »
Yeah?


THERE IS a difference between the current Democratic leadership and the Republican Party.

And you can bet your bippie that the Democrat Party also has a "Silent, Moral Majority", that still puts Baseball, Apple Pie and Chevrolet before Redistribution of Wealth and demonizing producers.

....just wait until the mid-terms.   Because if the Democrats control all three branches again, Matt Drudge's suggestion to "have an exit plan" will come to fruition.

In fact, it's not even controlling the House and Senate.   It's the fragility of life....of the members of the Supreme Court.

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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2014, 03:57:08 pm »
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2014, 04:55:33 pm »
It is different, and here's why.

Back in the GWB days, TOS was full of free trade types who played the conservative purity game. I can't tell you how many times I was told to go back to the DU because I didn't favor wholesale movement of jobs to China, or some other similar issue. Those people were the right equivalent of the dogmatic leftists that we deride here.

What you see here, now is the unraveling of the GOP as the left with their fully compliant media beat conservatism and capitalism into the ground. There is a lot of anxiety and frustration. There are those that believe that supporting anyone who calls himself/herself Republican is the answer. Then there are those that don't see a dimes worth of difference between the establishment GOP and Democrats. We have no leadership, and very little hope of moving the country back to the right. That anxiety plays out here. It's a vent, it's a safety valve.

You and I aren't far apart in how we see things. What is starting to chap my behind is the posters who come in, hurl insults, tell everyone who doesn't agree with them they're stupid, sophomoric and just plain lacking sense. My anxiety level is as high as anyone's. While I don't let this anxiety affect my daily life, (that I'm aware of), I express it here. However, if someone were to be as insulting as those posters are, to my face, I'm not sure the result would be good for either of us.

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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2014, 05:38:30 pm »
And you can bet your bippie that the Democrat Party also has a "Silent, Moral Majority", that still puts Baseball, Apple Pie and Chevrolet before Redistribution of Wealth and demonizing producers.
And that's why W.Va., with voter registration of at least 2:1 in favor of Dems (more like 4:1 or better in some counties), still has chosen the GOP presidential candidate since 2000 and has elected Republicans as two of its three congressional representatives.

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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2014, 12:35:25 am »
Anybody to the left of Rand Paul is now considered an Obama supporter here by TPTB.

This is different than TOS ... how, exactly?

Actually Rand Paul is a libertarian-conservative - which is pretty much where I am politically.  Andrew Wilkow has coined a term I like a lot: "Limitarian" as in government get out of the way and leave us the heck alone and let the country right itself without so much interference... of course this will never happen because both parties get off on the power they glean from picking the winners and losers in this country.
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2014, 12:42:35 am »
Perhaps the people who do not agree this admin has morphed into dangerous tyranical territory could tell us what exactly you do call someone who uses the NSA and IRS to spy on and control their perceived domestic enemies.  Who threatens news-people who speak out against them, who is now reported to not only be threatening major corporations to either start hiring or else and is not reported to be issuing threats to Newscorp to get in line or else.   If this isn't dangerous territory then tell us what is?  Because when you control the media the courts (packing the DC court), Homeland Security and have pretty much stripped all opposition out of the military while arming local police departments with military grade equipment - when exactly SHOULD we become concerned?  AND tell us why we should support the GOP leadership watching this take place and are complicit in this by their very silence.
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2014, 01:07:03 am »
and there is this, too...  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,126979.0.html

along with reports the admin has told News corp to play ball or else.
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2014, 01:14:39 am »
and there is this, too...  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,126979.0.html

along with reports the admin has told News corp to play ball or else.

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Anyone want some? This will be interesting.
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2014, 01:23:39 am »
Under Article 2, section 3 of the Constitution the President "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed"  it does not say the president gets to decide what laws he WANTS to faithfully execute or that he gets to go around congress to make his own laws (like immigration laws because that mean ole congress won't vote for what he wants).

What we have at the very least is an Imperial President with no regard for co-equal branches of government and it may not many here, but I find it alarming... and it is even more alarming that Boehner is rolling over and not using his own bully pulpit to speak out against this usurping of power.   
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2014, 01:26:05 am »
I'm still wondering what some far-right House Rep's words about Obama being a "dictator" matter nationally.  What did it accomplish? 

I don't think Rap even knows what she's arguing at this point.  I've admitted that Obama is acting like a dictator.  Some House Rep from a safe seat throwing some red meat to his voting base isn't really that big of a deal, and I still don't know what it was supposed to accomplish, coming from such a partisan member of congress.
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2014, 01:27:49 am »
Under Article 2, section 3 of the Constitution the President "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed"  it does not say the president gets to decide what laws he WANTS to faithfully execute or that he gets to go around congress to make his own laws (like immigration laws because that mean ole congress won't vote for what he wants).

What we have at the very least is an Imperial President with no regard for co-equal branches of government and it may not many here, but I find it alarming... and it is even more alarming that Boehner is rolling over and not using his own bully pulpit to speak out against this usurping of power.

Boehner has spoken about it repeatedly.  You've been provided links to it.  Here is another one from yesterday.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/28/have-constitution-boehner-warns-obama-on-exec-orders/

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House Speaker John Boehner issued a stern warning to President Obama ahead of Tuesday night's State of the Union address: "We have a Constitution. We abide by it. If he tries to ignore it, he's going to run into a brick wall."

The House speaker was addressing concerns that Obama is preparing to bypass Congress this year with more executive actions. Advisers for days have signaled that Obama will promote that approach in his State of the Union address -- and will use his "pen" and his "phone" in 2014 to achieve the results he wants.

What else would you like him to do?  Frog-march Obama out of the White House via citizen's arrest?  Boehner can call Obama out all he wants, but if the populace doesn't care, which they don't, what other tact is there to take?
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2014, 01:31:18 am »
Under Article 2, section 3 of the Constitution the President "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed"  it does not say the president gets to decide what laws he WANTS to faithfully execute or that he gets to go around congress to make his own laws (like immigration laws because that mean ole congress won't vote for what he wants).

What we have at the very least is an Imperial President with no regard for co-equal branches of government and it may not many here, but I find it alarming... and it is even more alarming that Boehner is rolling over and not using his own bully pulpit to speak out against this usurping of power.

You know your history. It has happened before. It will happen again.

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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2014, 01:32:36 am »
Boehner has spoken about it repeatedly.  You've been provided links to it.  Here is another one from yesterday.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/28/have-constitution-boehner-warns-obama-on-exec-orders/

What else would you like him to do?  Frog-march Obama out of the White House via citizen's arrest?  Boehner can call Obama out all he wants, but if the populace doesn't care, which they don't, what other tact is there to take?

Boehner warns and that is as far as he EVER goes. Remember when we learned about the IRS he ran out to the camera and said "someone is going to jail over this" and then retired back to his wine and cigarettes in the back room. Where was his outrage when Holder had a Democrat crony do a fake one day investigation and announced case solved, nothing to see here, move along.

Where was Boehner over NSA???

Where was Boehner on Benghazi?  Why when 75% of congress have signed a letter wanting a select committee will he not name one or even reply to them??? 
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2014, 01:39:15 am »
Boehner warns and that is as far as he EVER goes. Remember when we learned about the IRS he ran out to the camera and said "someone is going to jail over this" and then retired back to his wine and cigarettes in the back room. Where was his outrage when Holder had a Democrat crony do a fake one day investigation and announced case solved, nothing to see here, move along.

Where was Boehner over NSA???

Where was Boehner on Benghazi?  Why when 75% of congress have signed a letter wanting a select committee will he not name one or even reply to them???

This isn't about Benghazi or NSA, but as I recall, there were several hearings on both matters.  I would like you to tell me exactly what Boehner should do.  He used his bully pulpit by speaking out against Obama's excessive EOs, as you asked him to do when you instead said he "rolled over."  I shined the light on that fib by you, so now you change the goalposts. 

I'm sick of all talk no action, too, but I read a lot of that same stuff from posters on this board.  A lot of whining and criticizing, some of which certainly is well-deserved, yet very few realistic solutions. 
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2014, 02:48:39 am »
Did you watch Boehner on Leno?  He trashed his own party. Contrast to Te Cruz on CBS Sunday where he went hard on Obama.  Remember how when Bush was President Pelosi went out daily to trash talk Bush?   If Boehner is not driving his failures into the news  how do you expect LIV's to know half or more of what O said last night were lies.  Do you think Boehner and Cantor pushing amnesty will help us take the senate in November?  I don't.
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #42 on: January 30, 2014, 02:58:43 am »
Carling wrote:
[[ Calling Obama a dictator, when he hasn't claimed to be one, is a loser strategy. ]]

Obama is an erstwhile dictator of sorts. Perhaps not yet the real thing, but the colors of authoritarianism run in his veins.

Valerie Jarrett is the REAL dictator of the administration, who calls the shots behind the scenes.

Methinks if O had his way, he'd just as soon be playing golf or getting high with that Love guy...  :)

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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2014, 03:05:55 am »
DC Patriot writes:
[[ THERE IS a difference between the current Democratic leadership and the Republican Party ]]

From what I've seen of the Pubbies lately, the "R" that appears after the names of Republican Congressmen and Senators seems to stand mostly for "retreat".

Patriot continues:
[[ ....just wait until the mid-terms. ]]

Want to see just how quickly they can throw their chances over the cliff?
If they don't stand up against amnesty, it's pretty much over for them.
Right now, things ain't lookin' good.

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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2014, 03:14:44 am »
I would like you to tell me exactly what Boehner should do.  He used his bully pulpit by speaking out against Obama's excessive EOs
 
Negative, bucko, he used his bully pulpit to trash the Tea Party which happen to be his fellow Repulicans, whether he likes it or not.
 
Has anyone ever heard Boehner say anything at all, one single thing, that could be possibly be construed in some far out way as being negative toward OBAMA? or the DEMOCRATS?
 
NO!
 
He spends all his time attacking the Tea Party and his fellow Republicans, as does Reid, Pelosi, the MSM, and Obama.
 
Nothing personal against the guy, he is simply playing for the wrong team. He plays for the other team and he needs to join with THEM, and leave us alone.
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #45 on: January 30, 2014, 03:17:42 am »
Did you watch Boehner on Leno?  He trashed his own party. Contrast to Te Cruz on CBS Sunday where he went hard on Obama.  Remember how when Bush was President Pelosi went out daily to trash talk Bush?   If Boehner is not driving his failures into the news  how do you expect LIV's to know half or more of what O said last night were lies.  Do you think Boehner and Cantor pushing amnesty will help us take the senate in November?  I don't.

Wait, so you're saying that there are no TEA Party types who criticize Boehner?

I agree with you 100% on the immigration stuff, though.  I have not a clue what they're thinking, but they don't have a chance in hell of getting it passed.
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #46 on: January 30, 2014, 03:20:42 am »

 
Negative, bucko, he used his bully pulpit to trash the Tea Party which happen to be his fellow Repulicans, whether he likes it or not.
 
Has anyone ever heard Boehner say anything at all, one single thing, that could be possibly be construed in some far out way as being negative toward OBAMA? or the DEMOCRATS?
 


Yeah, I just linked it a few posts ago.  He said it yesterday

Read much?  Or, is it willful ignorance?
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #47 on: January 30, 2014, 03:22:25 am »
So, you justify bad behavior with bad behavior.
 
"Well, Johnny did it too! Why are you picking on meeeee?"
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #48 on: January 30, 2014, 03:22:38 am »
I guess what I find perplexing is how Boehner gets consistently bashed from the far right, yet when he says something back, suddenly the far right becomes aggrieved.

I don't even like Boehner, but I find humor in those who freak out about him getting upset when he fights back.
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« Reply #49 on: January 30, 2014, 03:23:51 am »
Alright, I'll check it out. It would surprise me, but I'm game.
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