Author Topic: Multiple sclerosis may be triggered by FOOD: Toxin produced by common bacteria could cause disease  (Read 762 times)

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Very interesting.  This could be a serious corner turned in fighting MS.

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I am always wary of "breakthroughs" like this because so often it turns out to be false.

But from the article, it is not the food/bacteria that is the real cause.  It is something genetic that makes the person susceptible where anyone without the screwed up gene would never have a problem.
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I am always wary of "breakthroughs" like this because so often it turns out to be false.

But from the article, it is not the food/bacteria that is the real cause.  It is something genetic that makes the person susceptible where anyone without the screwed up gene would never have a problem.

It sounds like it's both, which is generally how most inherited diseases go; you have a predisposition toward something that is triggered by something in the environment, a trigger that people without such a genetic predisposition do not react to.

Also, if it's confirmed, it would (a) make it a lot easier to help people who have MS now manage their MS and could provide a way to protect people who have the genetic predisposition; since genetic engineering isn't a viable option yet, this would be a very good option.

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My mother's neighbor's daughter was diagnosed with MS - maybe twenty years ago - they told her she would eventually be in a wheelchair.  She refused to accept that and put herself and her family on a strict organic vegetarian diet.  Today, she is miraculously well and healthy.  Somehow she made a food connection back then to the disease.   

Her father had Parkinson's, and I remember my mother commenting that she didn't like that he was always spraying pesticides on his apple trees and it would blow over into her yard.  She always thought the pesticides were the cause of his Parkinson's and his daughter's MS. 
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My mother's neighbor's daughter was diagnosed with MS - maybe twenty years ago - they told her she would eventually be in a wheelchair.  She refused to accept that and put herself and her family on a strict organic vegetarian diet.  Today, she is miraculously well and healthy.  Somehow she made a food connection back then to the disease.   

Her father had Parkinson's, and I remember my mother commenting that she didn't like that he was always spraying pesticides on his apple trees and it would blow over into her yard.  She always thought the pesticides were the cause of his Parkinson's and his daughter's MS.

Remember Ann Romney has MS and she has slowly managed to lead a decent life.  When you have an autoimmune disease you can either fight your way back or die.  I know a lady here in town with MS, she told me she was fine and then one morning she woke up and couldn't walk, it came on just that quickly.

I have Lupus (systemic - attacked my kidneys) and Sjogren's.. like most autoimmune diseases Lupus and Sjogrens has a link back to the Epstein Bar virus which can lie dormant in our bodies until we are subjected to stress and then it can become active literally overnight (as it did with me).  Epstein Bar is what ultimately killed the boy in the bubble.. we are all exposed to it practically from the start of our life, but when you have someone with a severe immune compromised issue like this boy did (thus the bubble) once exposed to the virus it can kill rapidly (like it did him).... 

What I learned early-on is the best way to put yourself into remission or semi-remission (I am stable at this time) is to go through and toss absolutely everything in the cupboard that is full of preservatives, give up sugar, heavily processed foods, etc.. this is why I eat the way I do today.  When I was first diagnosed I could barely get through the day on my feet and a day trip to Las Vegas or out on the lake would put me in bed for days to a week...  it was a total change of diet, taking the correct supplements, and interestingly enough getting to bed at dark that slowly helped me to where I am today (and back to being a night owl).  The reason to get to bed at dark is the liver does it's healing work at night and you have to be resting when it is at work.   


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I've always heard the body heals itself when you're asleep.  I think our environment, the food we eat, the water we drink, is a factor in a lot of these autoimmune diseases.  I have diabetes and I can control it with the proper diet and exercise without medications.  Not everyone can, but people owe it to themselves to try that route first instead of going the easy way, just dropping a pill.  Many times the pill is more dangerous in the long run.
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I've always heard the body heals itself when you're asleep.  I think our environment, the food we eat, the water we drink, is a factor in a lot of these autoimmune diseases.  I have diabetes and I can control it with the proper diet and exercise without medications.  Not everyone can, but people owe it to themselves to try that route first instead of going the easy way, just dropping a pill.  Many times the pill is more dangerous in the long run.

My husbands father, grandmother sister and brother were all insulin-dependent diabetics. George was glucose intolerant and we learned to keep his blood sugar relatively stable through diet, not always simple to do you have to be vigilant (as you well know). What was difficult was days he would have to have a fasting blood test and couldn't eat something first thing in the morning, he had veins that tended to roll and 9 times out of 10 the VA could never get his blood drawn and would send him over to Lab Corp where he'd have to wait his turn for a blood draw - by that time he'd start having the shakes. He always took something with him in the car so he could eat as soon as they were done with him.  When he had his cerebral hemorrhage and was on life support in a coma his blood sugar went totally whacko and they were giving him insulin ever couple of hours and it still would not bring the sugar down to a normal range.. the area of his brain most affected was for all his vitals like temperature, glucose, blood pressure.

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Both of my parents are diabetic.  My mother is in the late stage of Alzheimers and lately her blood sugar has been running really high.  I didn't think about it possibly being because a part of her brain that controls that might be shutting down.  It's insidious. 

When I was taking oral medication for the diabetes - afternoons at work were terrible.  We would be busy, and I wouldn't always be able to eat when I should - my blood sugar would start dipping like that & I would get shaky and irritable.  My brain would go foggy.  One time I checked it and my sugar was down to 40!  My husband would have to say, "Go Eat!".  I would never realize what was causing it.  Now that I'm controlling it on my own, I don't have the severe dips like that although if I go awhile without eating I can definitely feel the shakes coming on. 

Following a low carb diet has been a lifesaver for me. 
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Both of my parents are diabetic.  My mother is in the late stage of Alzheimers and lately her blood sugar has been running really high.  I didn't think about it possibly being because a part of her brain that controls that might be shutting down.  It's insidious. 

When I was taking oral medication for the diabetes - afternoons at work were terrible.  We would be busy, and I wouldn't always be able to eat when I should - my blood sugar would start dipping like that & I would get shaky and irritable.  My brain would go foggy.  One time I checked it and my sugar was down to 40!  My husband would have to say, "Go Eat!".  I would never realize what was causing it.  Now that I'm controlling it on my own, I don't have the severe dips like that although if I go awhile without eating I can definitely feel the shakes coming on. 

Following a low carb diet has been a lifesaver for me.

I always knew when George's dipped because he would get really loopy and I'd tell him to eat some turkey or cheese, anything with protein. I also had him start eating protein at bedtime to hold him through th enight - this helped a lot. It was a trick from the Zone Diet - he said eating protein of some kind at bedtime helps keeping everything burning the right way while you sleep.


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