Author Topic: Thievery: How Congress Keeps Stealing From Our Retirement Benefits and Social Safety Net Military pensions, unemployment, disability and Social Security are all targets.  (Read 426 times)

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Big ups to the GOP for putting the squeeze on double dippers. If only there was the political will to turn those burdens into productive soylent green:vote:  We will have to wait for a strong man of principles to lead us to salvation, but every little chip at the big government benefit trough is a welcome one to me.  I understand they're disabled but it's money that doesn't go to my child tax cut, or SS, or UI, or government kickback for making environmentally friendly potpourri.

Bit harsh, mate. Sounds an awful lot like culling the herd. Not saying your wrong, just saying that it "looks" wrong put like that.
In these days of massive databases and powerful computers, I don't understand how double dipping and fraud is even possible. Recalling the story from a couple of months ago - how is it no one noticed 40 or 50 checks were being cut to the same address every month? Unless it's a transients hotel, that should have been flagged automatically.
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Bit harsh, mate. Sounds an awful lot like culling the herd. Not saying your wrong, just saying that it "looks" wrong put like that.
In these days of massive databases and powerful computers, I don't understand how double dipping and fraud is even possible. Recalling the story from a couple of months ago - how is it no one noticed 40 or 50 checks were being cut to the same address every month? Unless it's a transients hotel, that should have been flagged automatically.
I'm kidding about culling the herd.  I am by no means a utilitarian.  I think society has a duty to help those who can't help themselves.  I just think the social safety net is too big and too ineffective.  I understand the point of view that some have, that unproductive people serve no purpose.  Those people scare the heck out of me.  I thought the sarcasm was obvious, but you English insist that words have meaning outside of what I mean when write the words. 

Double dipping is possible because, until the new law goes into effect, it is legal to receive a benefit for losing your job and another benefit for being unable to hold down a job because you had a stroke or insanity.  Both benefits are supposedly paid for by a tax on the worker and the business of course the business tax just becomes a cost of business and the employee is paid that much less.

The disability benefit can transfer to your beneficiaries under some circumstances and is indefinite often lasting till death, subject to review but rarely reviewed. 

The unemployment benefit varies from state to state.  It is currently 72 weeks in WI.  The first 28 weeks of benefits are paid by the state taxpayers and the remaining weeks by federal taxpayers.  It is also subject to review but rarely reviewed.

Our entire system is based on the concept that people will obey the law with a fractional show of enforcement.  The IRS, SSA, and DHHS doesn't have the resources to crack down on fraud and persecute the Tea Party at the same time.  Some of the the reason fraud works is because the government workers are protected by unions and they are not required to do their jobs.  Nobody is held accountable because the government is too huge to manage.  It is a Borg of mismanagement.  Unfortunately the American voters prefer the monstrously corrupt and ineffective state and federal bureaucracy over no safety net.

Congrats on the Lord Rennard scandal.
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Racism is evil.  And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans

-President Trump 8/14/17

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 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :beer:

Words are my playthings  :laugh: I know you were kidding, but it set the tone wrong, like deliberately tuning a guitar down half an octave. Gets attention, but doesn't sound right.  :laugh:

I too approve of a safety net. It takes a particularly harsh mind to leave someone to the wolves because they are unable to work through no fault of their own, or through bad luck (a single fallen leaf on a roof can leave a guy with a broken back, and some idiot blowing through a red light at 2 AM can leave you in a wheelchair or worse).

If the net gets too big though - it catches everything. Think of tuna nets. Miles long, a hundred feet deep and they catch everything. Tuna, sea bass, mackerel all get hoisted in. Along with several drowned dolphins that had the bad luck to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Regarding Lord Rennard - we don't often do scandals, but when we do we do them properly! :patriot:
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