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Conditions 'very similar' a time in 1645 when a mini ice age hit

Sensationalism (consider source) or a real concern? If the latter, how will Algore and the "preponderance of experts" explain it?
 
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The Sun's activity is at its lowest for 100 years, scientists have warned.

They say the conditions are eerily similar to those before the Maunder Minimum, a time in 1645 when a mini ice age hit, Freezing London's River Thames.

Researcher believe the solar lull could cause major changes, and say there is a 20% chance it could lead to 'major changes' in temperatures.

'Whatever measure you use, solar peaks are coming down,' Richard Harrison of the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory in Oxfordshire told the BBC.

'I've been a solar physicist for 30 years, and I've never seen anything like this.'

He says the phenomenon could lead to colder winters similar to those during the Maunder Minimum.

'There were cold winters, almost a mini ice age.

'You had a period when the River Thames froze.'

Lucie Green of UCL believes that things could be different this time due to human activity.

'We have 400 years of observations, and it is in a very similar to phase as it was in the runup to the Maunder Minimum.

'The world we live in today is very different, human activity may counteract this - it is difficult to say what the consequences are.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2541599/Is-mini-ice-age-way-Scientists-warn-Sun-gone-sleep-say-cause-temperatures-plunge.html
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WHOO HOO!  Fire up the aerosol hairspray.  :laugh:

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Mini Ice Age?  How about zip 92648, Surf City CA, 4:00 PM, PST, Jan. 18, 2014.

80 F. (Supposed to cool some tomorrow, but they have said that all this week and it hasn't cooled).

Clear, little breeze. Crowds at the beach almost like summer.

One man's ice age, is another man's drought and heat spell.
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They said the same thing in the 70's.  This weather pattern is almost identical to the 70's as a matter of fact....... if you read Cadillac Desert it talks about how the so-called experts were saying all the people who had moved west for the weather were going to have to pack up and move back east because we were drying up and were going to blow away.

BTW this is a picture of Havasu this morning.......



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They said the same thing in the 70's.  This weather pattern is almost identical to the 70's as a matter of fact....... if you read Cadillac Desert it talks about how the so-called experts were saying all the people who had moved west for the weather were going to have to pack up and move back east because we were drying up and were going to blow away.


I don't remember it being nearly this cold in the 70's.   Seemed like it warmed up quite a bit in the 70's, after lots of cold/snowstorms of the 60's, at least where I was in Northern NJ and Connecticut. 

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I don't remember it being nearly this cold in the 70's.   Seemed like it warmed up quite a bit in the 70's, after lots of cold/snowstorms of the 60's, at least where I was in Northern NJ and Connecticut.


I don't know what the east coast, etc were like in the 70s but I do remember in California it was mostly warm and dry.  One of the periods of extreme drought which didn't turn around until 83 and 84 when we had two back yo back very Dr y years which came close to taking out all the major dams in the Colorado River.

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Don't let that frostbite fool you.Just make sure those "cleaner sources of energy" come from fly-by-night firms headed by big Obama donors.


The real lie here is that last sentence, the one about this all being due to human activity.  Those scientists who believe that are acting on faith, not hard science.  There is certainly evidence that the global mean temperature is rising, to which I say so what?  The fact of the matter is, the Earth is still colder than it has historically been on the aeons-long scale, which means that nothing more than regression to the mean is needed to explain why things are getting warmer.

In other words, the mere fact that the planet's mean global temperature is increasing has absolutely no probative value when it comes to giving answers about the effects that human activity has on the planet.  And on that score, there is in fact a dearth of evidence pointing with any real confidence to human activity as being the main, primary, or even a significant, contributor to the increase in mean global temperature.  Scientists - or anyone else for that matter - who say otherwise are as enthralled with magic and mysticism as any primitive bowing and scraping before a medicine man and his totems.


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