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Obama's NSA Directives Naive, Says Former NSA Director Bobby Ray Inman

The retired admiral tried some of the president's recommendations in the 1970s, and says they won't work this time either.


By  Paul D. Shinkman
January 17, 2014 RSS Feed  Print   Comment (0)   

Admiral Bobby Inman, former deputy director of the Central Intelligence Agency, is shown before a symposium at the Lyndon Baines Johnson Library Friday, April 16, 2010, in Austin, Texas.
Adm. Director Bobby Ray Inman served as NSA director from 1977 to1981.



 
President Barack Obama's hopes for reforming the NSA, as outlined in a speech Friday, are naive at best and not addressing the true root of the problem, says a former director of the agency.

 
In a 45-minute long speech at the Justice Department, the president said the U.S. would cease surveillance of the political leaders of America's allies. He also called for the creation of a non-governmental group, perhaps a private organization, that will hold telephone metadata logs into which the National Security Agency may tap if it has a lead on a terrorist suspect – a task Obama admitted would pose difficult problems.

"It's a nice thought, but it's impractical," says retired Navy Adm. Bobby Ray Inman. He served as director of the NSA from 1977 to 1981, a tumultuous time for U.S. government surveillance in the wake of President Richard Nixon's 1974 resignation.

[READ: Obama NSA Reform May Reduce Privacy, Kill Constitutional Challenges]

Inman, now a professor at the University of Texas, faced a similar quagmire at the intersection of espionage and the public trust during his tenure, when the NSA sought to use a private company that maintains stock certificates to house government codes.

"We found it was unworkable," he says. "The problem was you have no oversight. People who hold stock certificates are not going to be willing to have their activities reviewed by the select committees of Congress."

"Someone in the commercial business is not going to willingly sign up to the intrusion of government, of congressional committees, coming to examine what they're doing."

This approach is fine for retroactive analysis, Inman says, or figuring out what the NSA missed or did not know. But such a system cannot work when an imminent incident is likely to occur.

"If you want to prevent attacks, that will not work. You can't afford the time delay," he says.

Inman also faults Obama's blanket decree to cease surveillance on friendly heads of state, almost certainly a nod toward the very public frustrations of Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff and German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

The president's speech comes at a time of good relations with those countries. But it is starkly contrasted against the origin of such taps under the tenures of German Chancellor Gerhard Shroder and French President Jacques Chirac in the early 2000s, he says. Both leaders were openly critical of U.S. policy, and at times anti-American.

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"The country may be an ally, but the leader may be hostile toward you," Inman says, adding that the national security adviser and other executive branch officials help decide whose communiques the intelligence services will monitor. "They can tune up who they want to collect against and who they don't want to collect against."

Inman remains confused with what Obama hoped to achieve with Friday's speech. He also faults Congress, which must act as the people's "surrogates" inside the classified realm in which intelligence services must operate. He calls the issue of getting the American public to offer support to intelligence agencies "a non-starter."

"You have to rely on [Congress'] oversight for the public to know that these are legal activities operating under the long-term national security interests of the country," he says. "If you cannot rely on those congressional surrogates to do the overview for the public, then there's no point in even having an agency and giving up any hope you're going to be informed about what's happening in the outside world."

"It's playing to an audience to try to satisfy people whose first concern is privacy and not national security," he says

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Re: Obama's NSA directives naive, says former NSA director Bobby Ray Inman
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2014, 02:32:54 PM »
This is my mother's brother.
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Re: Obama's NSA directives naive, says former NSA director Bobby Ray Inman
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2014, 02:38:52 PM »
This is my mother's brother.
He is your uncle?


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Re: Obama's NSA directives naive, says former NSA director Bobby Ray Inman
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2014, 02:44:52 PM »
He is your uncle?


Yep.  Youngest four star admiral ever.
 Reagan gave him his fourth star when he agreed to be deputy director of the CIA.. went from there to NSA... Clinton named him to be Sec of Defense, Stephsnopolus disagreed and set out to undermine the nomination, spread rumors he was gay... which he isn't.. my other uncle is...
« Last Edit: January 18, 2014, 02:45:27 PM by Rapunzel »
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Re: Obama's NSA directives naive, says former NSA director Bobby Ray Inman
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2014, 02:50:50 PM »

Yep.  Youngest four star admiral ever.
 Reagan gave him his fourth star when he agreed to be deputy director of the CIA.. went from there to NSA... Clinton named him to be Sec of Defense, Stephsnopolus disagreed and set out to undermine the nomination, spread rumors he was gay... which he isn't.. my other uncle is...

I'm impressed. Intelligence must run in your family.  ^-^

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Re: Obama's NSA directives naive, says former NSA director Bobby Ray Inman
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2014, 03:10:42 PM »
I'm impressed. Intelligence must run in your family.  ^-^

He is very smart. Was teaching college when he was 18, it's why he ended up joining the Navy... most of his students were older than he...since he has a photographic mind he went straight into intelligence.   
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Re: Obama's NSA directives naive, says former NSA director Bobby Ray Inman
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2014, 10:22:44 PM »
Rapunzel wrote:
[[ Yep.  Youngest four star admiral ever. ]]

Do you still have any way to contact him?

If so, send him this:
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"Citizens protected by this Constitution possess an inalienable right to privacy in their persons, business, and homes, and while they are in public.

It shall be a violation of this Constitution for the United States or for the several States to violate or invade the individual privacy of citizens by use of physical, mechanical, or electronic means or by the use of devices on land, on water, below the ground, or from the air.

This protection shall extend to all lawful communications and acts by an individual citizen or between two or more citizens, including content that is spoken, written, or electronically transmitted. It shall extend to citizens regardless of their location, whether in private or in public.

The only exceptions will be as governed by the Fourth Amendment of this Constitution."
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... and ask him what he thinks about it!


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