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Offline Lipstick on a Hillary

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The far right starts another phony fight
« on: January 17, 2014, 05:11:40 PM »

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Re: The far right starts another phony fight
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2014, 05:17:26 PM »
Article by Jennifer Rubin.

Offline rustynail

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Re: The far right starts another phony fight
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2014, 05:53:24 PM »
The author's tone keeps me from accepting her ideas.

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Re: The far right starts another phony fight
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2014, 06:06:42 PM »
great spot, does McConnell go independent if he loses GOP primary?
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Re: The far right starts another phony fight
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2014, 06:08:23 PM »
The author's tone keeps me from accepting her ideas.

I wouldn't go as far as the author goes, but there is some truth to her accusations.  The right/conservative wing of the GOP has demonstrated a very lamentable inability to do what their hero, Reagan, did constantly: practice the art of strategic compromise to get at least some of your important goals achieved even if you give up on some of those that are of lesser importance.

I'll give you a very, very simple illustration:  abortion.  I'm sorry, I don't like it any more than most other people, but it isn't going to go away.  Conservatives will never be able to outlaw it, nor put so many restrictions on it that it becomes practically impossible to have one.  Supreme Court precedent is black and white on this issue and is so solid that it will not be overruled for at least 100 years, if ever.

That means that all the ranting and raving spent on abortion and on threatening to impose draconian restrictions on it is an utter waste of breath, time, money and, worst of all, political capital.  And yes, anti-abortion conservatives almost uniformly come across as making threats when they go off on abortion.  In other words, a rational politician who has a whole portfolio of other goals to achieve wouldn't engage in that exercise in futility if she or he wanted to achieve any of those other goals.  About the only thing conservatives/republicans accomplish with their fetishistic fixation on abortion is chasing away voters who would otherwise find much of the rest of their agenda consistent with their beliefs.

Of course there are some who are so opposed to abortion that they are willing to sacrifice everything else to speak out - testify against - abortion and I won't say that such a person should simply shut up, but I will say that such a person has to be willing to accept the consequences of their actions, and that includes accepting the fact that they do significant damage to the political party they claim membership in and that they have marginalized themselves and the rest of their agenda.

Civil protest is a right that should never be gainsaid to anyone, but Congress is not the best of places to engage in it, particularly right now.
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Re: The far right starts another phony fight
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2014, 06:32:27 PM »
Insightful article.

Don't forget, the unelected heads of the "true conservative" organizations, are raking in money for fundraising and advertising, just like people do, in the "establishment."

And don't forget either, that it serves the democrats well, for the GOP to be at each others' throats.

So when you celebrate the fun of being engaged in a fight, consider who benefits, and what will be the results.

"God must love the common man, he made so many of them.�  Abe Lincoln

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Re: The far right starts another phony fight
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2014, 06:56:35 PM »
It's all about money.  Jim DeMint and Matt Hoskins HAVE to fire up their narrow constituency, and challenging Democrats doesn't do it. 

Gotta go after those in your own family.  Nothing like a family fight to make people choose sides.

Again, it's about the money.  No angry constituency, no money.
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Re: The far right starts another phony fight
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2014, 07:04:25 PM »
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And don't forget either, that it serves the democrats well, for the GOP to be at each others' throats.

So when you celebrate the fun of being engaged in a fight, consider who benefits, and what will be the results.

Words to live by

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Re: The far right starts another phony fight
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2014, 07:55:17 PM »
Thanks, Oceander.


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