The huge irony that I see here?
Sinkspur and I have been butting heads on illegal immigrants for years. It's one of the very few issues we don't see eye to eye.
I keep telling him it's because he's in Texas....a state overrun by border jumpers for years. Same thing with Rapunzel....who's in Arizona. Their firsthand experience with them is totally different than my interaction with them.
I've eaten at their dinner tables....played catch with their kids. Perspective is everything I guess.
I'm talking style not substance here.
If you want to go back to substance in a format other than attack style, I can do that. There are two issues at hand, Christie's presidential prospects and immigration. You seem to be focused on immigration.
As for Christie, I find him lacking. I dislike his bullying, and extreme self interest. Christie may be better than a Democrat, but it's not a clear superiority. As was said up thread, and I agree, Christie is likely to jettison anything for self interest. Which means with enough media pressure, Christie could be coerced into governing like a liberal Democrat. If Christie is the nominee, I'll have a very, very difficult time deciding what to do.
As for immigration, that's a very confusing one. We have laws, and the laws are sufficient, if they were only enforced. Your view seems to be more emotion rather than calculation. Don't get me wrong, emotion should be part of the calculus, but it shouldn't be the sole determinant. We have millions of people who were lured here to provide cheap labor. Unfortunately, along with the hard workers came the criminals. I'm suspicious of amnesty because the last amnesty was such a sham. If I had my say, we would close the border first. Make it so Mexicans have to go through the same process as Indians, or Vietnamese, or Italians, or anyone else to enter the country. Put in place a real, verifiable work visa program. Those that have made a life here, give them the option to become American, or go home. Those that are criminal in their behavior, deport them. If they are to be deported, they can take their family, or leave them here, doesn't matter, but we don't need more criminals. That's how I would do it.
The urban blacks need someone to work so they can stay on welfare, may as well be Mexicans. It's going to be interesting when Mexicans become the dominant culture in the United States, and they will, because Mexicans won't have "white guilt". Urban blacks are going to get a real wake up when Mexicans are in charge.