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Models Are So Thin Magazines Have To Photoshop Them Fatter
« on: December 30, 2013, 07:06:30 PM »
A former editor at Cosmopolitan, Leah Hardy, recently wrote an exposé about the practice of photoshopping models to hide the health and aesthetic costs of extreme thinness. Below is an example featuring Cameron Diaz:



The story about Diaz, in The Telegraph, includes the following description of the image's manipulation:
Face: Cheeks appear filled out
Bust: Levelled
Thighs: Wider in the picture on the right
Hip: The bony definition has been smoothed away
Stomach: A fuller, more natural look
Arms: A bit more bulk in the arms and shoulders

Another example was posted at The Daily What. Notice that her prominent ribcage has been photoshopped out of the photograph on the right, which ran in the October 2012 issue of Numéro.



Hardy, the editor at Cosmo, explains that she frequently re-touched models who were "frighteningly thin." Others have reported similar practices:

Jane Druker, the editor of Healthy magazine — which is sold in health food stores — admitted retouching a cover girl who pitched up at a shoot looking "really thin and unwell"...

The editor of the top-selling health and fitness magazine in the U.S., Self, has admitted: "We retouch to make the models look bigger and healthier"...

And the editor of British Vogue, Alexandra Shulman, has quietly confessed to being appalled by some of the models on shoots for her own magazine, saying: "I have found myself saying to the photographers, "Can you not make them look too thin?''"

Robin Derrick, creative director of Vogue, has admitted: "I spent the first ten years of my career making girls look thinner — and the last ten making them look larger."

Hardy described her position as a "dilemma" between offering healthy images and reproducing the mythology that extreme thinness is healthy:

At the time, when we pored over the raw images, creating the appearance of smooth flesh over protruding ribs, softening the look of collarbones that stuck out like coat hangers, adding curves to flat bottoms and cleavage to pigeon chests, we felt we were doing the right thing... We knew our readers would be repelled by these grotesquely skinny women, and we also felt they were bad role models and it would be irresponsible to show them as they really were.

But now, I wonder. Because for all our retouching, it was still clear to the reader that these women were very, very thin. But, hey, they still looked great!

They had 22-inch waists (those were never made bigger), but they also had breasts and great skin. They had teeny tiny ankles and thin thighs, but they still had luscious hair and full cheeks.

Thanks to retouching, our readers... never saw the horrible, hungry downside of skinny. That these underweight girls didn't look glamorous in the flesh. Their skeletal bodies, dull, thinning hair, spots and dark circles under their eyes were magicked away by technology, leaving only the allure of coltish limbs and Bambi eyes.

Insightfully, Hardy describes this as a "vision of perfection that simply didn't exist" concludes, "[n]o wonder women yearn to be super-thin when they never see how ugly [super-]thin can be."

UPDATE: A comment has brought up the point that it's bad to police people's bodies, no matter whether they're thin or fat. And this is an important point (made well here) and, while I agree that some of the language is harsh, that's not what's going on here. The vast majority of the models who need reverse photoshopping aren't women who just happen to have that body type. They are part of a social institution that demands extreme thinness and they're working hard on their bodies to be able to deliver it. This isn't, then, about shaming naturally thin women, it's about (1) calling out an industry that requires women to be unhealthy and then hides the harmful consequences and (2) acknowledging that even people who are a part of that industry don't necessarily have the power to change it.

http://www.businessinsider.com/models-are-so-thin-magazines-have-to-photoshop-them-fatter-2013-12

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Re: Models Are So Thin Magazines Have To Photoshop Them Fatter
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2013, 07:17:33 PM »
Interesting......
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Re: Models Are So Thin Magazines Have To Photoshop Them Fatter
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2013, 07:21:32 PM »
Ever wonder what the music world would be like if Karen Carpenter had eaten the ham sandwich Mama Cass choked to death on..??

Just askin'....

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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2013, 07:29:25 PM »
Ever wonder what the music world would be like if Karen Carpenter had eaten the ham sandwich Mama Cass choked to death on..??

Just askin'....

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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2013, 07:29:50 PM »
Ever wonder what the music world would be like if Karen Carpenter had eaten the ham sandwich Mama Cass choked to death on..??

Just askin'....

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Two extremes for sure - and both great talents and gone too soon.
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2013, 07:35:53 PM »
Two extremes for sure - and both great talents and gone too soon.

For sure. 

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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2013, 07:41:52 PM »
For sure. 

If God let me choose a singing voice, I'd choose Mama Cass, hands down.  ♥

Yep....... she was incredibly talented.  I loved the Mama's and the Papa's........ what a great era for music
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2013, 07:45:34 PM »
Real Men like women who look like women and who have real women's bodies, as opposed to some gay fashion magazine editor's idea of what a woman should look like, which, in sum, is a prepubescent boy.
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2013, 08:25:20 PM »
Real Men like women who look like women and who have real women's bodies, as opposed to some gay fashion magazine editor's idea of what a woman should look like, which, in sum, is a prepubescent boy.

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Re: Models Are So Thin Magazines Have To Photoshop Them Fatter
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2013, 08:58:18 PM »
Attractive women come in many shapes and sizes. Most of the women I tend to fall for seem to be slender (granted, there may be a bias because most of the curvaceous ones tend to be taken already).

Granted, not ALL shapes and sizes…
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Re: Models Are So Thin Magazines Have To Photoshop Them Fatter
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2013, 09:12:26 PM »
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Unless of course, the model's last name is Kardashian.
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Re: Models Are So Thin Magazines Have To Photoshop Them Fatter
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2013, 09:13:12 PM »
Women who are too thin (and by that I mean they look like a concentration camp survivor) are just not attractive.  There is a big difference in naturally thin and sickly thin.  My boss' daughter is 19, looks like she's about 13, and disappears if she turns sideways.  The girl eats like a horse, but never gains weight.  She's just very small and thin, just like her maternal grandmother.

I just had this same discussion in reverse the other day on another forum.  This magazine published an edition with a local woman on it in a bunch of glamor shots.  She looked very thin compared to how she looked before and a lot of people thought she looked sick.  The funny thing is, pictures taken just a few weeks later during a recent live performance showed her looking just like she always has, a healthy weight.  They clearly photoshopped her pictures so much that her arms looked like they'd snap under 5lbs of force.

And the woman in that picture at the top of the thread is not attractive.

And speaking of Photoshop, anyone ever see this video of how much it can change someone's appearance in a picture?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPnfjwKfkSk" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPnfjwKfkSk</a>


Turn off the annotations to see just what it can do.
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2013, 09:24:28 PM »
Models Are So Thin Magazines Have To Photoshop Them Fatter

Unless of course, the model's last name is Kardashian.

I will refrain from commenting on Ms. Kardashian, if only because she has already been the butt of too many jokes.
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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2013, 09:54:15 PM »
*snort*
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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2013, 09:59:21 PM »
I will refrain from commenting on Ms. Kardashian, if only because she has already been the butt of too many jokes.




heheheh

He said butt.
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Re: Models Are So Thin Magazines Have To Photoshop Them Fatter
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2013, 10:52:34 PM »
Real Men like women who look like women and who have real women's bodies, as opposed to some gay fashion magazine editor's idea of what a woman should look like, which, in sum, is a prepubescent boy.

In Tom Wolfe's work "A Man in Full" (1998) one of the main female characters, middle aged Martha Croker, joins a gym in order to regain her svelte figure. Several times Wolfe describes her female gym mates, all 20 something trophy wives, as "boys with tits". 
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Re: Models Are So Thin Magazines Have To Photoshop Them Fatter
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2013, 11:16:01 PM »
Real Men like women who look like women and who have real women's bodies, as opposed to some gay fashion magazine editor's idea of what a woman should look like, which, in sum, is a prepubescent boy.

Absolutely! And it removes the danger of spontaneous combustion! Plus, as a Portuguese-Italian, I have always subscribed to the belief that desirable women are like rock climbing. They require handholds. And skinny models look like ironing boards. And we don't like ironing.  :smokin:
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Re: Models Are So Thin Magazines Have To Photoshop Them Fatter
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2013, 11:32:56 PM »
Saw this online; it's kinda hard to see, but you can see where they moved her hips and fattened her arms.




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« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2013, 11:43:33 PM »
This is pretty funny.  Makes me think of a hula girl doll dancing on a dashboard.


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Re: Models Are So Thin Magazines Have To Photoshop Them Fatter
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2013, 11:45:08 PM »
Women who are too thin (and by that I mean they look like a concentration camp survivor) are just not attractive.  There is a big difference in naturally thin and sickly thin.  My boss' daughter is 19, looks like she's about 13, and disappears if she turns sideways.  The girl eats like a horse, but never gains weight.  She's just very small and thin, just like her maternal grandmother.

I just had this same discussion in reverse the other day on another forum.  This magazine published an edition with a local woman on it in a bunch of glamor shots.  She looked very thin compared to how she looked before and a lot of people thought she looked sick.  The funny thing is, pictures taken just a few weeks later during a recent live performance showed her looking just like she always has, a healthy weight.  They clearly photoshopped her pictures so much that her arms looked like they'd snap under 5lbs of force.

And the woman in that picture at the top of the thread is not attractive.

And speaking of Photoshop, anyone ever see this video of how much it can change someone's appearance in a picture?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPnfjwKfkSk

Turn off the annotations to see just what it can do.


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Re: Models Are So Thin Magazines Have To Photoshop Them Fatter
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2013, 11:58:01 PM »
Women who are too thin (and by that I mean they look like a concentration camp survivor) are just not attractive.  There is a big difference in naturally thin and sickly thin.  My boss' daughter is 19, looks like she's about 13, and disappears if she turns sideways.  The girl eats like a horse, but never gains weight.  She's just very small and thin, just like her maternal grandmother.

I just had this same discussion in reverse the other day on another forum.  This magazine published an edition with a local woman on it in a bunch of glamor shots.  She looked very thin compared to how she looked before and a lot of people thought she looked sick.  The funny thing is, pictures taken just a few weeks later during a recent live performance showed her looking just like she always has, a healthy weight.  They clearly photoshopped her pictures so much that her arms looked like they'd snap under 5lbs of force.

And the woman in that picture at the top of the thread is not attractive.

And speaking of Photoshop, anyone ever see this video of how much it can change someone's appearance in a picture?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPnfjwKfkSk

Turn off the annotations to see just what it can do.


The video reminded me of that Chinese man who sued his wife for his ugly children....she had $400K US invested in cosmetic surgery.  LOL!
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