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In some ways, this is good. This was done by the people, not by political powers. The people need to know the power they have when they stand up. Now to get them to stand up like this for big issues.

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Must be a slow weekend, or Tony Lee is OBSESSED with trashing the "GOP Establishment."

What a silly thing to get his panties in a wad over.


Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Cheers for those with the inclination to keep their heads down, keep their ammo dry and wait to make every dem own Obamacare every day until November elections.

There are plenty of professional entertainers, and every elected official in our faire lands doesn't need to try to be one.
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Cheers for those with the inclination to keep their heads down, keep their ammo dry and wait to make every dem own Obamacare every day until November elections.

There are plenty of professional entertainers, and every elected official in our faire lands doesn't need to try to be one.

That's for sure.

Jindal spoke up because Phil Robertson is a personal friend.

Palin spoke up because......well, she has a book out.

This was never a "free speech" issue.  It was about the marketplace.  A&E knee-jerked by suspending Robertson, thinking his remarks would negatively affect their bottom line.

Turns out they were wrong, they realized they were wrong, and they've backtracked.
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Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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In some ways, this is good. This was done by the people, not by political powers. The people need to know the power they have when they stand up. Now to get them to stand up like this for big issues.

I agree with you: in some ways, it is good.

It proves that regular people are not yet so cowed by political correctness that they cannot speak out against bullying in the name of loud and powerful interest groups. It proves that ordinary Americans are still willing to defend freedom of speech, even in the face of cultural fascism.

Would that they had a political party whose leaders were equally willing to risk their small careers in the name of liberty.

Cowardice in the pursuit of comity is not a virtue. Bravery in the pursuit of truth is not a vice.

When leadership fails, new leaders arise. Such leaders must be judged as well as the old, for their character, the validity of their beliefs, and for their intentions. But they ought not be mocked at least for the courage to stand up and be heard.
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"When leadership fails, new leaders arise. Such leaders must be judged as well as the old, for their character, the validity of their beliefs, and for their intentions. But they ought not be mocked at least for the courage to stand up and be heard."
 
This all is a lesson for Congress. "Only this far, and no farther" It is a phrase which has been used historically in America. Those people may have a lock on the Government and voting and the media, but it would be premature to count 'real America' out just yet. I know a lot of really good men who will not be taken down by the weenies in Congress and Hollywood.
 
The fact that we now see open ridicule and disrespect of Sharpton and Jackson as idiots, along with the public slapdown of the 'gay agenda' signals a pendulum swing away from Liberal bullshit and back to real America.
 
Being decent and intellectual people, we gave them their shot. In return they gave us the curse of Barack Obama. I don't think gays or Black race pimps or Liberals are bad people, per se, they have simply worn their welcome. They have proven in a very real and stark way, that they do not have the capacity to lead.
 
They may be nice people, in a vegan, tofu eating way, but they should never be allowed to be in charge. They cannot lead, and they cannot be trusted with my life, or the life of my friends, family, and neighbors.
 
Liberals are a curiosity, and some are nice, but they should never be put in charge of anything. They will just F--- it up, everytime. You can't live in a dream land and run real world projects. It doesn't work.
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In some ways, this is good. This was done by the people, not by political powers. The people need to know the power they have when they stand up. Now to get them to stand up like this for big issues.

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Duck Dynasty, like all reality shows is scripted.  As was the controversy.  As was the suspension and the media coverage.  As was the lifting of the suspension.  Its just ratings.  For those who played their scripted roles and made it a national story, thank you for making Gay&E more money.
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Duck Dynasty, like all reality shows is scripted.  As was the controversy.  As was the suspension and the media coverage.  As was the lifting of the suspension.  Its just ratings.  For those who played their scripted roles and made it a national story, thank you for making Gay&E more money.

The professional wrestling scenario crossed my mind too.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Duck Dynasty, like all reality shows is scripted.  As was the controversy.  As was the suspension and the media coverage.  As was the lifting of the suspension.  Its just ratings.  For those who played their scripted roles and made it a national story, thank you for making Gay&E more money.

Unless and until someone spills the beans we'll never know for sure.

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The only way this could be like prowrestling would be if GLAAD was playing the role of the compliant bitch, who gets slapped down.
 
Well, on second though, that wouldn't be entirely out of character for them, now would it.
 
Duck Dynesty said 'to hell with gays', the same as I feel and about hundreds of millions of others believe. No agenda. No subtrefuge.
 
It is just that 'reality' is so strange these days, people have a hard time understanding it. We do not live in the makebelieve Liberal-land, and it confuses them.
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The only way this could be like prowrestling would be if GLAAD was playing the role of the compliant bitch, who gets slapped down.
 
Well, on second though, that wouldn't be entirely out of character for them, now would it.
 
Duck Dynesty said 'to hell with gays', the same as I feel and about hundreds of millions of others believe. No agenda. No subtrefuge.
 
It is just that 'reality' is so strange these days, people have a hard time understanding it. We do not live in the makebelieve Liberal-land, and it confuses them.

Actually, GLAAD reacts so predictably to things that they could have played the straight man (so to speak) in a wag-the-dog scenario without realizing that they were being played.

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You make a good point. but i disagree.
 
This was an episode of America saying enough is enough. It is one thing to give homosexuals 'equal rights', it is a whole different thing to exalt them as being some kind of perfect person.
 
The gays and the Blacks have overstepped. It is one thing to be 'equal', but when you start declaring yourself as being 'superior', then you have gone out of bounds.
 
Liberal gay agenda.
Liberal black agenda.
Liberal muslim agenda.
 
It is all the same thing. They have a plan, and this is just one step in recognizing it.
 
No, it was not planned. It was just one White boy American, talking like a White boy American would always talk.
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I have pretty much stayed out of this rumble because I really didn't have a dog in the hunt.  Didn't really watch the show except in passing while flipping channels.

The reality here, my thoughts-political as well as religious, align far more with Phil Robertson than the GOP.  As far as the GOP is concerned, they can join GLAAD and sit and rotate.

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IMO, the GOP acted very professionally here.

Just because Barack Obama has something to say all the time on these national tabloid-type stories, doesn't mean the Republican Party has to follow him.
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I think the GOP did the right thing by not getting into the best.
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Mueller has been one of the most respected individuals on the planet over the last 20 years.

Mueller is a Republican

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Mueller doesn't determine if someone is guilty, The Judge and Jury do!

Get it!!!!

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Those agreeing with the GOP are ignoring the other half of the article... The GOP did see fit to send congratulations fir a non existent holiday... Kwanzaa.

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Me too.  I don't have a problem with it at all.   Everything doesn't always have to be all-politics-all-the-time. 

This was just another cultural-bullying episode-- brought to you once again by the Gaystapo.       

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IMO, there was no reason for the RNC to say a word about the controversy.

It wasn't about the government's imposing itself and curtailing free speech, so it wasn't political in that sense.

It was about a network trying to silence the freedom of one of it's most popular stars (while ignoring offenses of others), and in a larger sense about the increasing obstruction of freedom of Christians to state basic beliefs of faith.

It wasn't a GOP matter, and I join those who say it was good that they didn't get involved.
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IMO, there was no reason for the RNC to say a word about the controversy.

It wasn't about the government's imposing itself and curtailing free speech, so it wasn't political in that sense.

It was about a network trying to silence the freedom of one of it's most popular stars (while ignoring offenses of others), and in a larger sense about the increasing obstruction of freedom of Christians to state basic beliefs of faith.

It wasn't a GOP matter, and I join those who say it was good that they didn't get involved.

Had it been the Government doing it, different story.
« Last Edit: December 29, 2013, 12:19:47 PM by kevindavis »
To Clear things up...

Mueller has been one of the most respected individuals on the planet over the last 20 years.

Mueller is a Republican

Mueller was appointed by Republicans

Mueller doesn't determine if someone is guilty, The Judge and Jury do!

Get it!!!!

“You can go to live in France, but you can't become a Frenchman. You can go to live in Germany, but you can't become a German... But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to live in the United States and become an American.”

- Ronald Reagan

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Had it been the Government doing it, different story.

And you think they would have said something?  I highly doubt it.

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IMO, there was no reason for the RNC to say a word about the controversy.

It wasn't about the government's imposing itself and curtailing free speech, so it wasn't political in that sense.

It was about a network trying to silence the freedom of one of it's most popular stars (while ignoring offenses of others), and in a larger sense about the increasing obstruction of freedom of Christians to state basic beliefs of faith.

It wasn't a GOP matter, and I join those who say it was good that they didn't get involved.

The network didn't try to silence anyone's freedom. The fact that he exercised his freedom, fully and without network interference is what caused the brouhaha to begin with.

In fact, the network was criticized for knowing what Phil said in the interview in advance of it going public and NOT trying to silence him.

Everyone is free to speak their minds, but no one is free from the possible consequences of doing so.

The network executives have equal freedom to terminate contracts at will.

The GOP didn't need to get involved because it had absolutely nothing to do with politics or government.
« Last Edit: December 29, 2013, 12:48:22 PM by Luis Gonzalez »


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