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« on: December 19, 2013, 09:53:03 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2013, 09:54:54 AM »
Loss of free speech and employment because of his sexual preference.

I do believe this is unconstitutional.....





And the war against Christians continues.
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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2013, 12:13:15 PM »
Rush on this now.
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« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2013, 12:32:28 PM »
Rush on this now.

Oooooh... I wish I could listen to him today!!  :smokin:

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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2013, 12:37:53 PM »
Oooooh... I wish I could listen to him today!!  :smokin:

He's covering it well, IMO.

The double standard with what the left can do, especially.

The fear of saying what you think if you're a conservative........particularly a Christian.  But also saying that the Robertson's are doing the show BECAUSE they're Christian and it gives them a platform to speak Scriptural truth.

And espousing the obvious free market freedom AE has to fire him.

Right now saying, he's not sure this is a loss.

(Because of the attention they're getting).
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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2013, 12:42:20 PM »


(Because of the attention they're getting).

Oh heck yeah!  I think every other post I see on FB is about DD.   I've already seen a "Bring Phil Back, Ya Quack!"  t/shirt being advertised.  Gotta love capitalism.   :laugh:

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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2013, 12:52:36 PM »
Oh heck yeah!  I think every other post I see on FB is about DD.   I've already seen a "Bring Phil Back, Ya Quack!"  t/shirt being advertised.  Gotta love capitalism.   :laugh:

Exactly!

Rush mentioned something interesting........that there may be a possibility that Americans have reached a tipping point, and that this might serve as a catalyst.  The majority are sick of being pushed around by a tiny minority.

The lack of free speech we Christians have because of the militant, hate-filled minority is appalling.

I'll be watching to see what Phil and his family do as a result of this absurdity.
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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2013, 12:54:16 PM »
I was just getting ready to comment about Rush's tipping point remarks.  Nice to hear, but we shall see...

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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2013, 01:08:27 PM »
I was just getting ready to comment about Rush's tipping point remarks.  Nice to hear, but we shall see...

I think we have to reach it sometime.

This attack on Phil Robertson's freedom (agree with his views or not) and the rule of the tiny minority over the majority is very public.  It's out there.

And from the little I know about all the Robertsons, they're not about to be quiet about this.

I think Rush is right in that they certainly didn't agree to do the show because they needed the money.  I think he's right in thinking that they are doing it to promote Christianity, family, love for others, and that this attack on their right to free speech may well give them an even bigger bully pulpit than they've had on A&E.
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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2013, 02:07:54 PM »
I think we have to reach it sometime.

This attack on Phil Robertson's freedom (agree with his views or not) and the rule of the tiny minority over the majority is very public.  It's out there.

And from the little I know about all the Robertsons, they're not about to be quiet about this.

I think Rush is right in that they certainly didn't agree to do the show because they needed the money.  I think he's right in thinking that they are doing it to promote Christianity, family, love for others, and that this attack on their right to free speech may well give them an even bigger bully pulpit than they've had on A&E.

How is it his free speech was attacked?  He spoke his peace, he had his say.  No freedoms were attacked.

Seems to me he KNEW his EMPLOYERS *yes, because that's exactly what A&E is to him and his family* views on the subject and decided to go elsewhere to voice his opinions.  Good for him.

But his employer has a right to do what they did too.  No matter if anybody likes it or not.   Don't like their decisions, don't watch the show.  Don't buy the product.  Just that simple.

For pete's sake, it's a TV show.

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« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2013, 02:21:19 PM »
How is it his free speech was attacked?  He spoke his peace, he had his say.  No freedoms were attacked.

Seems to me he KNEW his EMPLOYERS *yes, because that's exactly what A&E is to him and his family* views on the subject and decided to go elsewhere to voice his opinions.  Good for him.

But his employer has a right to do what they did too.  No matter if anybody likes it or not.   Don't like their decisions, don't watch the show.  Don't buy the product.  Just that simple.

For pete's sake, it's a TV show.

I already acknowledged A&E's right to fire Robertson because they didn't like what he said.

You're missing the entire point.............whether deliberately or not, I don't know.

The point is that the homosexual militants and their allies on the left have made it impossible to simply express the view that homosexuality is a sin without being accused of hatred, or having negative repercussions.

And in doing so, they have cowed most of us who believe in marriage as God intended it, into silence.

Free speech is now a one way street, lambchop.  We, as Christians, espousing traditional Scriptural views no longer have it.

Yes, it's "just a TV show."  That, of course, is irrelevant to the core of the issue, which is the double standard that exists between the vile, hate-filled rhetoric allowed by the left against us, and the mere stating of an opinion in a colorful way, or just outright, that is denied those of us on the right.
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« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2013, 02:33:11 PM »


Free speech is now a one way street,

Bingo. Homophobic statements and lyrics are widely accepted by the left. Hell, Jay z is one of the worst
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,123727.0.html

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« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2013, 02:35:24 PM »
Bingo. Homophobic statements and lyrics are widely accepted by the left. Hell, Jay z is one of the worst
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,123727.0.html

I think this is going to ignite another Chick-Fil-A - type rebuttal.      :laugh:
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« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2013, 02:39:45 PM »
Bingo. Homophobic statements and lyrics are widely accepted by the left. Hell, Jay z is one of the worst
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,123727.0.html

The thing is that what is quoted on your link IS "homophobic" and hate-filled.

What Phil Robertson said was not.

He stated his "sexual preference" in rather straightforward terms, but not vulgar............just anatomically correct.

The outright vulgarity and vileness of the words of the left is what's offensive.

But nary a peep from the PC crowd.

Unbelievable.............  **nononono*
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« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2013, 02:40:53 PM »
I already acknowledged A&E's right to fire Robertson because they didn't like what he said.

You're missing the entire point.............whether deliberately or not, I don't know.

The point is that the homosexual militants and their allies on the left have made it impossible to simply express the view that homosexuality is a sin without being accused of hatred, or having negative repercussions.

And in doing so, they have cowed most of us who believe in marriage as God intended it, into silence.

Free speech is now a one way street, lambchop.  We, as Christians, espousing traditional Scriptural views no longer have it.

Yes, it's "just a TV show."  That, of course, is irrelevant to the core of the issue, which is the double standard that exists between the vile, hate-filled rhetoric allowed by the left against us, and the mere stating of an opinion in a colorful way, or just outright, that is denied those of us on the right.

Then you forget the Chick-fil-a guy who lost his job:

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/tucson-exec-loses-job-over-anti-chick-fil-a-rant/article_f8cefeec-dcf5-11e1-8b88-001a4bcf887a.html

I just get so tired of the manufactured outrage when there are REAL issues.  The "so-called" persecution and such.

Both the Chick-fil-a guy and Phil were fired for something they said that went against their employer.  That's too bad for them.
But they made their choice, they said their peace.

Show me REAL Christian persecution in this country.  Cause as far as I'm concerned, until we have to endure what Christians in the Middle East have to endure, we need to stop being so damned thin skinned and overly dramatic.

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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2013, 02:41:06 PM »
I think this is going to ignite another Chick-Fil-A - type rebuttal.      :laugh:

You know, I've resisted it because I'm kind of a city/suburban type lady, but I might just get down to Walmart and buy me a DD shirt.    :laugh:
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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2013, 02:42:17 PM »
The thing is that what is quoted on your link IS "homophobic" and hate-filled.

What Phil Robertson said was not.

He stated his "sexual preference" in rather straightforward terms, but not vulgar............just anatomically correct.

The outright vulgarity and vileness of the words of the left is what's offensive.

But nary a peep from the PC crowd.

Unbelievable.............  **nononono*

I completely agree. Just using 'their' language to prove a point. Robertson was just expressing his sexual orientation.

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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2013, 02:43:48 PM »
Then you forget the Chick-fil-a guy who lost his job:

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/tucson-exec-loses-job-over-anti-chick-fil-a-rant/article_f8cefeec-dcf5-11e1-8b88-001a4bcf887a.html

I just get so tired of the manufactured outrage when there are REAL issues.  The "so-called" persecution and such.

Both the Chick-fil-a guy and Phil were fired for something they said that went against their employer.  That's too bad for them.
But they made their choice, they said their peace.

Show me REAL Christian persecution in this country.  Cause as far as I'm concerned, until we have to endure what Christians in the Middle East have to endure, we need to stop being so damned thin skinned and overly dramatic.

Some of us prefer to stop the snowball that's rolling down hill rapidly BEFORE it gets to the point where there is outright persecution.

NO ONE is whining or being "damned thin skinned" here.

And NO ONE is being "overly dramatic."

There is a very, very real, tangible attempt by the left to silence Biblical views, and if you don't see it then you'd better open your eyes.
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2013, 02:45:18 PM »
I completely agree. Just using 'their' language to prove a point. Robertson was just expressing his sexual orientation.

Which is, I believe, Constitutionally protected, right??

Being fired for being heterosexual and saying so??

According to the LEFT, A&E doesn't have the right to do that......
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« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2013, 02:49:09 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2013, 02:52:42 PM »
Some of us prefer to stop the snowball that's rolling down hill rapidly BEFORE it gets to the point where there is outright persecution.

NO ONE is whining or being "damned thin skinned" here.

And NO ONE is being "overly dramatic."

There is a very, very real, tangible attempt by the left to silence Biblical views, and if you don't see it then you'd better open your eyes.

OK, then answer this.  Why is it whenever there is a Duck Dynasty kerfuffle there seems to be a new Duck Dynasty product on the shelves? 

This is sheep herding.  And I see just fine thank you.

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« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2013, 02:53:26 PM »

Show me REAL Christian persecution in this country.  Cause as far as I'm concerned, until we have to endure what Christians in the Middle East have to endure, we need to stop being so damned thin skinned and overly dramatic.


Yeah sure, keeping your mouth shut *until* you are REALLY persecuted seems like the quickest way to get there...


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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2013, 02:54:05 PM »
You know, I've resisted it because I'm kind of a city/suburban type lady, but I might just get down to Walmart and buy me a DD shirt.    :laugh:

My point being made right there.

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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2013, 03:00:19 PM »
OK, then answer this.  Why is it whenever there is a Duck Dynasty kerfuffle there seems to be a new Duck Dynasty product on the shelves? 
If you say so (although some evidentiary support would be nice). That's capitalism for you, I guess.
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« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2013, 03:01:06 PM »
My point being made right there.

LOL!

That was HUMOR, lambchop.

The left has none, but WE do.

Remember??
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