Author Topic: Union official: Smoking, obesity, other health issues could mean paying more under ObamaCare  (Read 348 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline flowers

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 18,767
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/18/smoking-obesity-other-health-issues-can-mean-paying-more-under-obamacare/?intcmp=latestnews

Quote
Under ObamaCare, smoking, obesity and other health conditions sometimes penalized by wellness programs can force even those with employer-provided insurance to pay more, an officer of the National Union of Healthcare Workers said Tuesday.

"I run five miles a day, I don't drink, I don't smoke. And by the Kaiser wellness program that a number of employees we represent are covered by, I'm two pounds from being overweight," said John Borsos.

Kaiser said in a statement late Tuesday that its program is voluntary and does not penalize those who don't meet the program's goals, although that is not true for other programs.

Borsos says even the extremely fit, such as Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III, would be considered overweight by wellness programs.

The rules for such a program, put out in May as a regulation, say, "The program must be reasonably designed to promote health or prevent disease."

Borsos criticizes what he calls "a lack of precision in what's going on out there. It’s kind of troubling," he says, "that this was so heavily incorporated into the Affordable Care Act in the way that it was.”

"Wellness is very, very popular in the corporate world," says John Goodman of the National Center for Policy Analysis in Dallas. "Companies are just beginning to impose pretty severe penalties."

If workers do not participate, for instance, they can be charged up to 20 percent of their health insurance premium, and that is going up to 30 percent in January. 

Employers like wellness programs because they think they help create a healthier workforce.   

For instance, CVS drug stores imposed a $50 fine per month -- $600 a year-- on those who refuse to disclose their weight, body fat, and other health measures.


Offline EC

  • Shanghaied Editor
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 23,836
  • Cats rule. Dogs drool.
Let me take a wild guess. They are using BMI for their obesity guide.  :shrug:
The universe doesn't hate you. Unless your name is Tsutomu Yamaguchi

Avatar courtesy of Oceander

I've got a website now: Smoke and Ink

Offline Rapunzel

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 71,719
Let me take a wild guess. They are using BMI for their obesity guide.  :shrug:


Yes
“The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.” G Washington July 2, 1776

Offline EC

  • Shanghaied Editor
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 23,836
  • Cats rule. Dogs drool.
The universe doesn't hate you. Unless your name is Tsutomu Yamaguchi

Avatar courtesy of Oceander

I've got a website now: Smoke and Ink

Offline happyg

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 11,822
So, only healthy people get a decent break on insurance? Many over-weight people and smokers are healthy. I wonder what other health issues they are talking about? Whatever happened to pre existing conditions? I know many smokers who outlived their non smoking spouses. Before the smoking laws came into effect, I used to take a bunch of old people outside the nursing home to smoke, all in their 80s and more.

Offline Oceander

  • Technical
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 46,888
  • #ToldYouSo


Share me

Digg  Facebook  SlashDot  Delicious  Technorati  Twitter  Google  Yahoo
Smf