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The U.S. Army War College, which molds future field generals, has begun discussing whether it should remove the portraits of Confederate generals, including Robert E. Lee and Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson.

The college, nestled in rural Pennsylvania on the 500-acre Carlisle Barracks, is doing an inventory of all its paintings and photographs with an eye toward rehanging them in historical themes to tell a particular Army stories.

During the inventory, an unnamed official — not the commandant, Maj. Gen. Anthony A. Cucolo III — asked the administration why the college is honoring two generals who fought against the United States, according to college spokeswoman Carol Kerr.

“I do know at least one person has questioned why we would honor individuals who were enemies of the United States Army,” Ms. Kerr said. “There will be a dialogue when we develop the idea of what do we want the hallway to represent.”

She said one faculty member took down the portraits of Gen. Lee and Gen. Jackson, and put them on the floor as part of the inventory process. That gave rise to rumors that the paintings had been removed.

“This person was struck by the fact we have quite a few Confederate images,” she said, adding that the pictures were put back on a 3rd floor hallway.

“He [Gen. Lee] was certainly not good for the nation. This is the guy we faced on the battlefield whose entire purpose in life was to destroy the nation as it was then conceived…This is all part of an informed discussion.”

It is the kind of historical cleansing that could spark a debate Army-wide. Gen. Lee’s portrait adorns the walls of other military installations and government buildings.

Two portraits of Gen. Lee are on display at West Point. In the Cadet Mess Hall, there is a painting of Capt. Lee as superintendent. There is also a portrait of Gen. Lee in full Confederate regalia on the second floor of Jefferson Hall, the campus library.

Opened in 1901 to study the lessons of war, the war college is both a history class and modern warfare symposium for Army lieutenant colonels and colonels who know a War College diploma helps their chances with the next promotion board. The college graduates over 300 U.S. officers, foreign students and civilians in two classes each year.

Gen. Lee’s life story is full of personal conflict.

He graduated from the Army’s premiere undergraduate school, West Point, and returned as its superintendent. Yet, he broke with the Union and agreed to lead the Army of Northern Virginia. Gen. Jackson is also a West Point graduate.

In 1975, Congress enacted a joint resolution reinstating Gen. Lee’s U.S. citizenship in what could be seen as a final act to heal Civil War wounds. The resolution praised Gen. Lee’s character and his work to reunify the nation. It noted that six months after surrendering to Gen. Ulysses S. Grant, Gen Lee sworn allegiance to the Constitution and to the Union.

“This entire nation has long recognized the outstanding virtues of courage, patriotism and selfless devotion to duty of General R. E. Lee,” the resolution stated.

President Gerald R. Ford traveled to Arlington House, Gen. Lee’s former Virginia home, to signed the resolution into law on Aug. 5, 1975.

Mr. Ford quoted from a letter Gen. Lee wrote to a former Confederate soldier:

“This war, being at an end, the Southern States having laid down their arms, and the questions at issue between them and the Northern States having been decided, I believe it to be the duty of everyone to unite in the restoration of the country and the reestablishment of peace and harmony.”

Mr. Ford said, “As a soldier, Gen. Lee left his mark on military strategy. As a man, he stood as the symbol of valor and of duty. As an educator, he appealed to reason and learning to achieve understanding and to build a stronger nation. The course he chose after the war became a symbol to all those who had marched with him in the bitter years towards Appomattox.”


This administration is going to get away with re-writing history aren't they?  **nononono*


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Yep, this proposed move is not solely a slap in the face of the south but America's history. It's time for Americans to stand up to those bent on rewriting history so that it panders to so-called contemporary sensibilities. Two of the greatest generals are to be snubbed to meet today's perverse benchmark of political correctness. Pathetic.

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/17/robert-e-lee-and-stonewall-jackson-tributes-face-a/?page=all

This administration is going to get away with re-writing history aren't they?  **nononono*


Yes, this is one of the things Glenn Beck talks about most frequently and why he has been collecting original documents and old, old history books.  His latest book is one I want to read because it is about forgotten history.
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Yes, this is one of the things Glenn Beck talks about most frequently and why he has been collecting original documents and old, old history books.  His latest book is one I want to read because it is about forgotten history.
What is the name of that book?


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Who is the dweeb that complained?

This is the damned Army War College, here. Possibly the only more respected one in the world is the Royal Military College, Sandhurst. The people who attend these institutions are the best of the best as far as tactics goes and the College pulls lessons from 5000 years of successful Generals and commanders.

Not all of them are necessarily "good" guys. What they are are effective guys, the ones who created and advanced the art of doing unto others before they can do unto you.
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Two truly great men.

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Who is the dweeb that complained?

This is the damned Army War College, here. Possibly the only more respected one in the world is the Royal Military College, Sandhurst. The people who attend these institutions are the best of the best as far as tactics goes and the College pulls lessons from 5000 years of successful Generals and commanders.

Not all of them are necessarily "good" guys. What they are are effective guys, the ones who created and advanced the art of doing unto others before they can do unto you.

So how many pictures of American Revolutionary War Generals does England have in it's war college? 

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So how many pictures of American Revolutionary War Generals does England have in it's war college?

I can recall pictures of Washington, Greene (there is an entire series of lectures on him - one of the finest strategists to ever grace the battlefield), Muhlenberg (the guy is a god as far as guerrilla warfare is concerned), Wayne, and - despite being Navy - John Paul Jones.

There are probably others. My time there was rather short and not exactly a sightseeing tour. Hell, Napoleon has a picture in the grand hall.
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I can recall pictures of Washington, Greene (there is an entire series of lectures on him - one of the finest strategists to ever grace the battlefield), Muhlenberg (the guy is a god as far as guerrilla warfare is concerned), Wayne, and - despite being Navy - John Paul Jones.

There are probably others. My time there was rather short and not exactly a sightseeing tour. Hell, Napoleon has a picture in the grand hall.

Then there is their answer.  Pictures may be of an opponent, but they have been strong military minds. 

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Then there is their answer.  Pictures may be of an opponent, but they have been strong military minds.

Exactly. Required reading for all tac and strat streams? "The Art of War." Doesn't matter it was written 500 years before the birth of our Lord. It's perfect.
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“He [Gen. Lee] was certainly not good for the nation. This is the guy we faced on the battlefield whose entire purpose in life was to destroy the nation as it was then conceived…This is all part of an informed discussion.”
How very insightful of Ms. Carol Kerr (who sounds like she just graduated from government high school).
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In many parts of the deep South, the Fourth of July was not observed until well after the last local Confederate Veteran had passed, and even then the observance was subdued.

And today's Army is not run by the same breed of Yankee.....



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