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Islamist protesters in London warn shops against alcohol sales
« on: December 15, 2013, 07:35:06 AM »
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Re: Islamist protesters in London warn shops against alcohol sales
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2013, 08:19:02 AM »
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British police stood between the protesters and the shops and also kept British counter-protesters at a distance.

And the Muslim protesters will complain about that. Despite the fact that if the cops were not there, they'd probably get the mother of all beat downs.

You see, we English are a bit odd like that. Store owners, restaurant staff, takeaway workers tend to become friends when you see them every day or every few days. Any attack on the shops in Brick Lane would have met with a rather devastating response.

Seriously, for any Muslims reading - don't even think of touching our booze. Ever.
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Re: Islamist protesters in London warn shops against alcohol sales
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2013, 08:45:14 AM »
And the Muslim protesters will complain about that. Despite the fact that if the cops were not there, they'd probably get the mother of all beat downs.

You see, we English are a bit odd like that. Store owners, restaurant staff, takeaway workers tend to become friends when you see them every day or every few days. Any attack on the shops in Brick Lane would have met with a rather devastating response.

Seriously, for any Muslims reading - don't even think of touching our booze. Ever.

I wouldn't worry about the muslims on this issue but I would worry about Cameron and Parliament caving to them. :truce:
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
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Re: Islamist protesters in London warn shops against alcohol sales
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Re: Islamist protesters in London warn shops against alcohol sales
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2013, 04:33:52 PM »
Well there ain't anything stopping you from picking up and moving back to whence you came, or to any other muslim-dominated country.
The thing stopping that is they want world wide Shariah law


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Re: Islamist protesters in London warn shops against alcohol sales
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2013, 04:44:22 PM »
The thing stopping that is they want world wide Shariah law

ABSOLUTELY!! :thumbsup:
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"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
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Re: Islamist protesters in London warn shops against alcohol sales
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2013, 05:20:26 PM »
Charge him with incitement, arrest him, try him, convict him, lock him away with zero outside contact.
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Re: Islamist protesters in London warn shops against alcohol sales
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2013, 05:40:53 PM »
Incitement isn't illegal here. Only specific threats.
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Re: Islamist protesters in London warn shops against alcohol sales
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2013, 07:20:03 PM »
The thing stopping that is they want world wide Shariah law

Obviously.  The remark was rhetorical but, if actually addressed to the bastard, would expose his ulterior motives.

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Re: Islamist protesters in London warn shops against alcohol sales
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2013, 08:55:02 PM »
Incitement isn't illegal here. Only specific threats.
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Re: Islamist protesters in London warn shops against alcohol sales
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2013, 09:06:22 PM »
Incitement isn't illegal here. Only specific threats.

Where's the dividing line between incitement and making specific threats?  Does the imminency of incited violence matter (e.g., someone on a soapbox demanding that "the people" everywhere, including those in front of him, start rioting immediately?).

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Re: Islamist protesters in London warn shops against alcohol sales
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2013, 05:53:11 AM »
Where's the dividing line between incitement and making specific threats?  Does the imminency of incited violence matter (e.g., someone on a soapbox demanding that "the people" everywhere, including those in front of him, start rioting immediately?).

From what I understand, it is in the immediacy. You'll note Choudary was very careful to specify it happening at some unnamed future time. These hate preachers are well versed in the law and know exactly how close to the line they can walk.

In a funny way, they do us a service. Anyone who attends one of the rallys or the mosque they preach in, even once, becomes a person of interest and is monitored for several years. Hate preachers have been responsible for exposing more terror plots than MI5 and the police combined.
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Re: Islamist protesters in London warn shops against alcohol sales
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2013, 12:56:04 PM »
From what I understand, it is in the immediacy. You'll note Choudary was very careful to specify it happening at some unnamed future time. These hate preachers are well versed in the law and know exactly how close to the line they can walk.

In a funny way, they do us a service. Anyone who attends one of the rallys or the mosque they preach in, even once, becomes a person of interest and is monitored for several years. Hate preachers have been responsible for exposing more terror plots than MI5 and the police combined.

Immediacy (and specificity) are also the touchstones in the US. 


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