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HOUSE APPROVES BIPARTISAN BUDGET DEAL
« on: December 12, 2013, 06:35:08 PM »
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Re: HOUSE APPROVES BIPARTISAN BUDGET DEAL
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2013, 06:35:46 PM »
http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/house-passes-budget-deal-prewrite/

House Passes Budget Deal

By Emma Dumain   Posted at 6:30 p.m. Dec. 12

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The House passed a budget agreement Thursday night that, though modest, could fundamentally change how Capitol Hill functions for the remainder of the 113th Congress.

Lawmakers voted 332-94 on the deal negotiated by House Budget Chairman Paul D. Ryan, R-Wis., and Senate Budget Chairwoman Patty Murray, D-Wash.

Breaking the vote down by party, Republicans were split 169-62, while Democrats divided themselves 163-32.

The vote was a difficult one for many members.

For some Republicans, the bill didn’t cut deeply enough or go far enough to mirror the types of changes that conservatives heralded in Ryan’s signature House-passed budget blueprints.

They also had to contend with the chorus of calls to oppose the deal from influential outside conservative advocacy groups, such as Heritage Action for America, the Club for Growth and Americans for Prosperity.

For some Democrats, it was difficult to get beyond the fact that the deal didn’t create new revenue through tax increases, and that it was not tied to an extension of emergency unemployment insurance aid, set to expire before the end of the year.

But enough lawmakers from both parties held their noses as Ryan counseled “not to let the perfect be the enemy of the good,” and Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., urged her caucus to “embrace the suck” of the agreement.

The plan sets a $1.012 trillion discretionary spending level for 2013 — halfway between the $967 billion sequester level and the far-higher number Democrats were seeking. It also sets a $1.014 trillion for 2014. It finds savings through recalculating federal workforce pensions and requiring government employees to contribute more toward retirement, something Democrats were sour on as well.

The Senate is expected to take up the measure next week, when the chamber will still be in session. The House is set to adjourn on Friday and will return in early January.
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Re: HOUSE APPROVES BIPARTISAN BUDGET DEAL
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2013, 06:48:47 PM »
Now we know which Republicans need to be primaried out of office.
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Re: HOUSE APPROVES BIPARTISAN BUDGET DEAL
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2013, 06:50:59 PM »
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/193003-senate-democratic-leader-unsure-gop-votes-are-there-to-pass-budget-deal

Durbin: We need GOP votes for deal

By Alexander Bolton - 12/12/13 04:42 PM EST

The Senate Democratic leadership is not sure there are enough votes to pass a year-end budget deal next week.

Senate Democratic Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) cautioned Thursday that Democrats are not assured of winning over enough Republican votes to pass a budget deal to avoid a government shutdown.

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The top three Senate Republican leaders have signaled they will vote against the deal, which would reduce the automatic cuts known as sequestration by $63 billion.

Senior GOP lawmakers and aides say the agreement negotiated between Senate Budget Committee Chairwoman Patty Murray (D-Wash.) and House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) busts budget caps set in 2011.

“We need Republican votes to pass the budget agreement. Period. We need at least five,” said Durbin, the second-ranking Senate Democratic leader.

“I’m not sure of anything,” he added. “There are not five Republicans who have announced they’re for it.”

The bill is expected to pass the House on Thursday despite the strong opposition of conservative groups, which have skewered it for lifting budget caps for 2014 and 2015 in exchange for deficit-reducing actions spread over the next decade.

A strong House vote could spur Republican senators to embrace the deal. One GOP aide said that some lawmakers were holding off on stating their positions as a courtesy to Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio).

Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), a centrist who often works with Democrats, said she was undecided.

“There are a whole bunch of things,” Murkowski said, citing her concerns. “You got federal employees in there. You got military retirement pay. You got [the Strategic Petroleum Reserve].”

The Murray-Ryan deal would rescind available funds in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve and repeal the federal government’s ability to accept oil through the royalty-in-kind program.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who initially signaled he would vote for the legislation, said Thursday morning he is now undecided because of proposed pension cuts for working-age military retirees.

“I’m having our folks look at it right so you’ll have to put me down as undecided because I’m very concerned about that,” he said.

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who is up for reelection next year and worked with McCain to find ways to reduce cuts slated for military programs, said he would vote "no" because of the military retiree issue.

Democratic leaders will need more than five GOP votes if they suffer defections within their own caucus. Liberal Sens. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) and Bernie Sanders (Vt.), an independent who caucuses with Democrats, say they are undecided because the agreement does not include emergency unemployment benefits.

Sen. Lamar Alexander (Tenn.) and Orrin Hatch (Utah), two other Republicans with pragmatic streaks, also said they are undecided about how to vote.

Sen. Jeff Sessions (Ala.), the ranking Republican on the Senate Budget Committee, who plans to vote against the agreement, said Republicans will wage a filibuster against it.

He said the GOP would force Democrats to secure 60 votes at least twice to waive budgetary objections and end dilatory debate.

“They’ll need 60 votes on cloture and 60 votes on the budget point of order,” Sessions said.

But Republicans do not expect to wage a lengthy talking filibuster, such as Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) did earlier this year to protest the Obama administration’s drone policy.

“Really, the purpose of extending debate on an issue is so that people will become more aware and calling attention to it,” Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said. “I think there will be awareness of this issue and as a result it probably won’t be necessary to do something like that.”

Sens. Ted Cruz (Texas) and Mike Lee (Utah), two Tea-Party Republicans who led the fight against the government funding measure in October, declined to say if they use a lengthy floor debate to slow Murray-Ryan pact.

Cruz issued a critical statement Thursday afternoon.

“The new budget deal moves in the wrong direction: it spends more, taxes more, and allows continued funding for ObamaCare. I cannot support it,” he said.   
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Re: HOUSE APPROVES BIPARTISAN BUDGET DEAL
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2013, 07:18:10 PM »
Now we know which Republicans need to be primaried out of office.

Yes.  Shoot anybody who disagrees with you.

You realize, of course, that most members are in safe districts and invulnerable to any primary challenge.  But, Jim DeMint at Heritage and Matt Hoskins at SCF want you to throw your money at them so they can make  you think there's a real chance these guys will be voted out.

Only 69 members were cowed by FreedomWorks.  That's far fewer than anyone anticipated.  At some point, even these guys will get tired of the fighting and actually work to get some things done.
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Re: HOUSE APPROVES BIPARTISAN BUDGET DEAL
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2013, 07:52:54 PM »
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll640.xml

Ayes

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Beatty
Becerra
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Cole
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Shuster
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Jones
Jordan
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Smith (NE)
Stockman
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Waters
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Webster (FL)
Wenstrup


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Brown (FL)
Castro (TX)
Davis, Danny
McCarthy (NY)
Radel
Rush
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Re: HOUSE APPROVES BIPARTISAN BUDGET DEAL
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2013, 07:53:22 PM »
My current and former (new district) congressmen voted NO!!!!!
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Re: HOUSE APPROVES BIPARTISAN BUDGET DEAL
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2013, 08:05:00 PM »
So they fund Obamakare in able to use it against the democrats later?
John Boehner 3d chess savant.

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Re: HOUSE APPROVES BIPARTISAN BUDGET DEAL
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2013, 09:03:52 PM »
So they fund Obamakare in able to use it against the democrats later?
John Boehner 3d chess savant.

Yep and cannot defund it in 2014
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Re: HOUSE APPROVES BIPARTISAN BUDGET DEAL
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2013, 09:12:28 PM »
Wow, Rapunzel, you got that vote up fast. Thanks for that. I note the guy from my district voted for it but of the names who voted "no", I see some very good people.

One other thing about this vote. Recall how Boehner was whining,
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"You mean the groups that came out and opposed it before they ever saw it?" a visibly angry Boehner told reporters Wednesday, his tone rising. "They're using our members and they're using the American people for their own goals. This is ridiculous."
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But, John, Ryan and Mophead only reached an agreement on this budget two days ago, so, John, are you telling us the members of the House were able to familiarize themselves with all the details of a $1.012 trillion budget that is covering both 2014 & 2015? Or did they just support it before seeing it because the House leadership used them for their own goals?
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Re: HOUSE APPROVES BIPARTISAN BUDGET DEAL
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Re: HOUSE APPROVES BIPARTISAN BUDGET DEAL
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2013, 09:23:52 PM »
My idiot Congresscritter did as well, using the excuse "it's for the troops."  He already got a nasty e-mail from me and has lost my support and vote.  After backing the NSA, he had one more chance and just blew it.
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Re: HOUSE APPROVES BIPARTISAN BUDGET DEAL
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2013, 09:30:51 PM »
My current and former (new district) congressmen voted NO!!!!!

Rep. Jim Jordan voted NO, too!


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