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South Carolina Sheriff Refuses To Lower Flag For Mandela
« on: December 07, 2013, 08:50:00 AM »
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Rick Clark, the sheriff of Pickens County, S.C., vowed on Friday to defy President Obama's order that U.S. flags be lowered to half staff in honor of deceased South African leader Nelson Mandela.

Clark made his promise in a Facebook post to keep flying the flag at the Pickens County Sheriff's Office at full height.

"I usually don't post political items, but today is different. I received this notification today, 'As a mark of respect for the memory of Nelson Mandela, the President orders that the flag of the United States be flown at half-staff effective immediately until sunset, December 9, 2013,'" Clark wrote. "Nelson Mandela did great things for his country and was a brave man but he was not an AMERICAN!!! The flag should be lowered at our Embassy in S. Africa, but not here."

Clark said the flags at the Sheriff's Office were at half staff Friday to mourn a deceased deputy. Clark said the flag would remain at half mast Saturday to mark Pearl Harbor Day. After that, he said, he "ordered that the flag here at my office back up" (sic).

View Clark's full Facebook post below.


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Re: South Carolina Sheriff Refuses To Lower Flag For Mandela
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2013, 08:51:35 AM »
Good.
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Re: South Carolina Sheriff Refuses To Lower Flag For Mandela
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2013, 09:00:22 AM »
Political speech was once tolerated in America. I hope the sheriff remains unscathed by this act of dissent. And, if not, the ACLU should come to his defense.
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Re: South Carolina Sheriff Refuses To Lower Flag For Mandela
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2013, 09:15:16 AM »
Good man!  He is exactly right, in that no sitting President has ever ordered the flag flown at half staff for ANY foreigner.  It simply is not done.


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Re: South Carolina Sheriff Refuses To Lower Flag For Mandela
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2013, 09:22:08 AM »
Yep. Totally agree.

Respect, fair enough. But half mast is for something serious.

While I do think the US Embassy in Joburg should fly the flag at half mast to show respect to their host country, why should the USA as a whole? That is stupid and almost as tacky as flying the flags at half mast when Whitney Houston died.
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Re: South Carolina Sheriff Refuses To Lower Flag For Mandela
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2013, 09:40:14 AM »
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Re: South Carolina Sheriff Refuses To Lower Flag For Mandela
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2013, 09:41:06 AM »
Good man!  He is exactly right, in that no sitting President has ever ordered the flag flown at half staff for ANY foreigner.  It simply is not done.

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Re: South Carolina Sheriff Refuses To Lower Flag For Mandela
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2013, 10:01:36 AM »
If it were not Pearl Harbor Day I would say “bravo.”
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Re: South Carolina Sheriff Refuses To Lower Flag For Mandela
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2013, 10:28:11 AM »
If it were not Pearl Harbor Day I would say “bravo.”

Look at his Facebook post, he lowered it for a deputy killed in the line of duty and for Pearl Harbor Day. Tomorrow it will go back up.

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Re: South Carolina Sheriff Refuses To Lower Flag For Mandela
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2013, 10:30:35 AM »
Yep. Totally agree.

Respect, fair enough. But half mast is for something serious.

While I do think the US Embassy in Joburg should fly the flag at half mast to show respect to their host country, why should the USA as a whole? That is stupid and almost as tacky as flying the flags at half mast when Whitney Houston died.

Agreed.

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Re: South Carolina Sheriff Refuses To Lower Flag For Mandela
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2013, 10:52:57 AM »
That is stupid and almost as tacky as flying the flags at half mast when Whitney Houston died.

At least she was a citizen.   :whistle:

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Re: South Carolina Sheriff Refuses To Lower Flag For Mandela
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2013, 11:04:47 AM »
So was Viola Pierce.

http://www.dallasnews.com/obituary-headlines/20131206-viola-pierce-rosie-the-riveter-worker-and-world-war-ii-veteran-dies-at-90.ece


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Re: South Carolina Sheriff Refuses To Lower Flag For Mandela
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2013, 11:06:57 AM »
In May he can order flags lowered in remembrance of Adolf Hitler, the man whose guide to dictatorship he appears to be following. :lubyou:
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Re: South Carolina Sheriff Refuses To Lower Flag For Mandela
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2013, 04:25:49 PM »
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Re: South Carolina Sheriff Refuses To Lower Flag For Mandela
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2013, 04:45:21 PM »
Political speech was once tolerated in America. I hope the sheriff remains unscathed by this act of dissent. And, if not, the ACLU should come to his defense.

This kind of political speech should be protected.

It will be a good indicator of how far away we are from liberty if ANYTHING happens to this brave man.
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