Author Topic: Uh oh: 7 in 10 doctors boycotting California's Obamacare exchange  (Read 914 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Online rangerrebew

  • America defending Veteran
  • TBR Contributor
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 65,584
  • “It’s easier to fool people than to convince them


December 7, 2013


Uh oh: 7 in 10 Doctors Boycotting California's Obamacare Exchange

Leah Barkoukis



Another glaring example of why the ‘if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor’ mantra President Obama and other ACA enthusiasts touted is simply false:



An estimated seven out of every 10 physicians in deep-blue California are rebelling against the state's Obamacare health insurance exchange and won't participate, the head of the state's largest medical association said.


“It doesn't surprise me that there's a high rate of nonparticipation,” said Dr. Richard Thorp, president of the California Medical Association.

Thorp has been a primary care doctor for 38 years in a small town 90 miles north of Sacramento. The CMA represents 38,000 of the roughly 104,000 doctors in California.

“We need some recognition that we’re doing a service to the community. But we can’t do it for free. And we can’t do it at a loss. No other business would do that,” he said.

California offers one of the lowest government reimbursement rates in the country -- 30 percent lower than federal Medicare payments. And reimbursement rates for some procedures are even lower.

In other states, Medicare pays doctors $76 for return-office visits. But in California, Medicare’s reimbursement is $24, according to Dr. Theodore M. Mazer, a San Diego ear, nose and throat doctor.

In other states, doctors receive between $500 to $700 to perform a tonsillectomy. In California, they get $160, Mazer added.

Only in September did insurance companies disclose that their rates would be pegged to California’s Medicaid plan, called Medi-Cal. That's driven many doctors to just say no.

Who would have guessed? Physicians, like I’m sure most working adults, would rather not be paid a fraction of what their services are worth, so are choosing not to participate. This in turn means the pool of doctors available to patients will be smaller. And worse yet, they're currently being led to believe that more doctors are participating than actually are.



“Some physicians have been put in the network and they were included basically without their permission,” Lisa Folberg said. She is a CMA’s vice president of medical and regulatory Policy.


“They may be listed as actually participating, but not of their own volition,” said Donald Waters, executive director of the Alameda-Contra Costa Medical Association.

Waters' group represents 3,100 doctors in the East Bay area that includes Oakland, with an estimated 200,000 uninsured individuals.

“This is a dirty little secret that is not really talked about as they promote Covered California,” Waters said. He called the exchange's doctors list a “shell game” because “the vast majority” of his doctors are not participating.


 

Why? Because when asking physicians to participate in the exchange, the memorandum of understanding failed to provide reimbursement rates. As expected, few physicians were willing to blindly agree to participate without knowing what the rates would be.

All of the changes and uncertainty in the health care industry are also, not surprisingly, leading many doctors to consider retiring early. “I just turned 55, and a lot of us are kind of going, ‘Maybe there’s something else we can do in the last 10 years,’ because this is just getting too onerous to keep on going,” said Dr. Theodore M. Mazer, the Washington Examiner reported.

Once again, enrollment does not mean access to care. “[T]here aren’t enough doctors to take the low rates of Medicaid,” said Alex Briscoe, health director for Alameda County Health Care Services Agency, the Washington Examiner reported. “There aren’t enough primary care physicians
Abraham Lincoln:

There is no grievance that is a fit object of redress by mob law.
--January 27, 1838 Lyceum Address

Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties. And not to Democrats alone do I make this appeal, but to all who love these
great and true principles.
--August 27, 1856 Speech at Kalamazoo, Michigan

Let us then turn this government back into the channel in which the framers of the Constitution originally placed it.
--July 10, 1858 Speech at Chicago

Offline olde north church

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 5,136
Re: Uh oh: 7 in 10 doctors boycotting California's Obamacare exchange
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2013, 05:37:46 AM »
And it also puts the physcians in the unenviable position of telling the patient they must pay up front, deflecting anger away from the President and Democrats.
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

Online rangerrebew

  • America defending Veteran
  • TBR Contributor
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 65,584
  • “It’s easier to fool people than to convince them
Re: Uh oh: 7 in 10 doctors boycotting California's Obamacare exchange
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2013, 06:18:21 AM »
And it also puts the physcians in the unenviable position of telling the patient they must pay up front, deflecting anger away from the President and Democrats.

I guess I would have a handout for every patient explaining why this is happening and try to put the blame back on Ali Bama.
Abraham Lincoln:

There is no grievance that is a fit object of redress by mob law.
--January 27, 1838 Lyceum Address

Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties. And not to Democrats alone do I make this appeal, but to all who love these
great and true principles.
--August 27, 1856 Speech at Kalamazoo, Michigan

Let us then turn this government back into the channel in which the framers of the Constitution originally placed it.
--July 10, 1858 Speech at Chicago

Offline olde north church

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 5,136
Re: Uh oh: 7 in 10 doctors boycotting California's Obamacare exchange
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2013, 07:19:36 AM »
I guess I would have a handout for every patient explaining why this is happening and try to put the blame back on Ali Bama.

Good luck with that carrying a puking kid in one hand and an obamaphone in the other.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2013, 07:20:18 AM by olde north church »
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

Offline Oceander

  • Technical
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 45,432
  • #ToldYouSo
Re: Uh oh: 7 in 10 doctors boycotting California's Obamacare exchange
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2013, 11:18:12 AM »
And it also puts the physcians in the unenviable position of telling the patient they must pay up front, deflecting anger away from the President and Democrats.

Or else of extending credit to the patient, and bearing the full risk that the patient will never pay.

Offline Fishrrman

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 10,638
Re: Uh oh: 7 in 10 doctors boycotting California's Obamacare exchange
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2013, 10:56:31 PM »
Next steps (by the Obammunists):
- Refuse to renew license of any physician who refuses to accept ObamaCare
- If that doesn't work, nationalize the doctors -- ALL of them.

Offline Oceander

  • Technical
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 45,432
  • #ToldYouSo
Re: Uh oh: 7 in 10 doctors boycotting California's Obamacare exchange
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2013, 10:57:45 PM »
Next steps (by the Obammunists):
- Refuse to renew license of any physician who refuses to accept ObamaCare
- If that doesn't work, nationalize the doctors -- ALL of them.

Of course.

Offline Cincinnatus

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 5,514
Re: Uh oh: 7 in 10 doctors boycotting California's Obamacare exchange
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2013, 11:05:58 PM »
If that doesn't work, nationalize the doctors -- ALL of them.

I have been expecting some kind of coercive legislation involving medical personnel ever since stories started surfacing about doctors refusing to participate in ObamaCare. How dare they?
We shall never be abandoned by Heaven while we act worthy of its aid ~~ Samuel Adams

Offline Atomic Cow

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 18,235
  • High Yield Minion
Re: Uh oh: 7 in 10 doctors boycotting California's Obamacare exchange
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2013, 11:13:19 PM »
One of my doctors will go to cash only starting January 1.  I will see him Wednesday for my normal visit so we'll see what the rates will be.
"...And these atomic bombs which science burst upon the world that night were strange, even to the men who used them."  H. G. Wells, The World Set Free, 1914

"The one pervading evil of democracy is the tyranny of the majority, or rather of that party, not always the majority, that succeeds, by force or fraud, in carrying elections." -Lord Acton

Offline Oceander

  • Technical
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 45,432
  • #ToldYouSo
Re: Uh oh: 7 in 10 doctors boycotting California's Obamacare exchange
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2013, 11:21:10 PM »
One of my doctors will go to cash only starting January 1.  I will see him Wednesday for my normal visit so we'll see what the rates will be.

Hopefully the cash rates will be lower, seeing as how the doctor doesn't have to worry about an insurance company cutting reimbursements and doesn't have to carry all that expensive overhead to deal with insurance companies.


Share me

Digg  Facebook  SlashDot  Delicious  Technorati  Twitter  Google  Yahoo
Smf