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Hmmm, does anyone else recall the days when "imposing your religion on others" was considered a bad thing?

Liberals always scream bloody murder about, but only if it applies to Christians or Catholics.
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I can't see much wrong with women only and men only times at the pool - we have had them for years, along with parent and toddler mornings and day time restrictions on adult use while schoolchildren are using the pool.
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I can't see much wrong with women only and men only times at the pool - we have had them for years, along with parent and toddler mornings and day time restrictions on adult use while schoolchildren are using the pool.

It would appear England, though dominated by Liberalism, is not in the grips of the rampant egalitarianism one finds in the US. I, too, see nothing wrong with segregated swimming times for various groups but our Liberals wail loudly at any sign differences are recognized and public policy accommodated to that fact. At least when it is some group Liberals favor or is practiced by some group they do not. That also incorporates the "imposing your religion" meme.

It's not really the separation which is at issue but the constant, unending, obnoxious hypocrisy and double standards.
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I can't see much wrong with women only and men only times at the pool - we have had them for years, along with parent and toddler mornings and day time restrictions on adult use while schoolchildren are using the pool.

It would appear England, though dominated by Liberalism, is not in the grips of the rampant egalitarianism one finds in the US. I, too, see nothing wrong with segregated swimming times for various groups but our Liberals wail loudly at any sign differences are recognized and public policy accommodated to that fact. At least when it is some group Liberals favor or is practiced by some group they do not. That also incorporates the "imposing your religion" meme.

It's not really the separation which is at issue but the constant, unending, obnoxious hypocrisy and double standards.

True. Don't mind teasing you guys from time to time about what is happening, but don't like to go too hard on the criticism, both for "glass houses" reasons and the fact that at least you are trying to stem the tide.

Rampant Egalitarianism would never make much headway here. We are a class based society and resist change bitterly (and rather successfully). Our liberals have a different definition of "fairness" to yours.
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« Last Edit: November 28, 2013, 07:31:24 PM by EC »
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A swift follow up. Folk might think that Mr. Neuffer is some right wing whack job - after all, he invoked first ammendment and is one of those dangerous, unbalanced vets the progressives fear so much.

The list of associations his wife belongs to makes interesting reading.

        Association of Aquatic Professionals
        California Self-Insurers Association
        Global Drowning Prevention Forum
        Injured Workers Law & Advocacy Group
        Jones Act and Longshore Claims Professionals
        National Workers' Compensation and Disability Conference & Expo
        Return To Work Roundtable
        WORK COMP ANALYSIS GROUP
        WORK COMP Insurance, TPA, Self-Insured, State and Municipal Government Professional Network
        WORKERS COMPENSATION & HEALTHCARE TRANSFORMATION COUNCIL
        Wellness is a Business Strategy
        Work Comp Cost Management
        WorkCompCentral
        Workers Compensation Cost Containment Professional Network
        Workers Compensation Roundtable

The bolded one is nicely ironic for women who are trying to learn to swim in order NOT to drown.

Storm in a tea cup, this one.
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Islam discriminates against and even abuses women, and now it's getting official government approval to do so.

Yes, and if the public officials responsible for this pool denied them on that grounds they would be wrong to do so, and I think you know that.

The bottom line here is that this is a local issue, and if the community who pays for this is fine with it then so am I.



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