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Offline xfreeper

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If you want to discuss your socialist utopia agenda why don't you start your own thread and anyone interested in evolving with you can go to it

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Good idea. I just found out I'm a 10 percent socialist. I'll hop aboard that thread, Anomalism... if only to discuss my recovery.

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First of all these so-called billionaires answer to a little thing called their STOCK HOLDERS... and raising taxes does absolutely nothing beneficial for the economy  - actually the opposite and in the process all they do is RAISE PRICES.....  so you and I pay more for the goods.  Taxes are but one part of the equation in what is commonly referred to as COST OF GOODS......     



If taxes on giant corporations went up and caused the price of their goods to increase, would that not make it easier for smaller businesses that would have less or no taxes to compete with them? A corporation like Walmart comes into town and intentionally puts all the competition out of business. They destroy the free market by creating a monopoly. It seems to me that if they wanted to stay in business they'd need to fairly compete with what small business owners were offering. That might mean the Walton family makes a few less billions every year, but I think they'd be alright.
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Good idea. I just found out I'm a 10 percent socialist. I'll hop aboard that thread, Anomalism... if only to discuss my recovery.

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This thread would have never made it this far if the topic had not evolved. It would have hit a page or maybe two and then it would have disappeared. How much is there to really discuss about a teacher getting raped and murdered by a student? Through discussion of the things said by posters in this thread it has evolved beyond the confines of what it originally was, and as a result has become a larger and more active thread filled with the back and forth discussions of people that use this forum. I question everything, and as a result many of the threads I post in become very active, and don't always stay completely in line with the original topic. That is the way discussion often works.

In the future stay on the topic of the thread.  If you want an "evolved" discussion take it to the boxing ring.
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That might mean the Walton family makes a few less billions every year, but I think they'd be alright.
Who are you to say whether any particular amount of money or wealth is appropriate for anyone?

Do you propose taxing only large retailers like Walmart or also the large multinational companies that manufacture the goods sold by Walmart and all those small businesses, e.g., Colgate, Proctor and Gamble, Kraft Foods, Jockey, etc. If you also tax the manufacturer, the price it charges Walmart and the small businesses will go up and both retailers - whether large or small - will have to raise the price of what the consumer wants to buy.

The only thing that will help small business, the middle class and just about everyone else is lower taxes.
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And what does any of this thread creep - especially the evil Walmart -  have to do with this wretched boy who killed his teacher?
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Who are you to say whether any particular amount of money or wealth is appropriate for anyone?

Do you propose taxing only large retailers like Walmart or also the large multinational companies that manufacture the goods sold by Walmart and all those small businesses, e.g., Colgate, Proctor and Gamble, Kraft Foods, Jockey, etc. If you also tax the manufacturer, the price it charges Walmart and the small businesses will go up and both retailers - whether large or small - will have to raise the price of what the consumer wants to buy.

The only thing that will help small business, the middle class and just about everyone else is lower taxes.

If you also increased tax on giant manufacturers and the cost of production went up somewhat, would that not be largely nullified by small businesses paying much less or no taxes? Maybe we could even have a sliding scale of taxes for the manufacturers as well? Maybe we could force more competition among the manufacturers in the same way we could force Walmart to compete with small businesses. I completely agree that taxes on small businesses and the middle class need to go way down, but I don't agree that the same is true for the super rich and giant corporations.
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Who are you to say whether any particular amount of money or wealth is appropriate for anyone?

Do you propose taxing only large retailers like Walmart or also the large multinational companies that manufacture the goods sold by Walmart and all those small businesses, e.g., Colgate, Proctor and Gamble, Kraft Foods, Jockey, etc. If you also tax the manufacturer, the price it charges Walmart and the small businesses will go up and both retailers - whether large or small - will have to raise the price of what the consumer wants to buy.

The only thing that will help small business, the middle class and just about everyone else is lower taxes.

Spot on. Materials cost goes up, prices go up on the finished product. Prices go up on the finished product, prices go up in the store.

These things are not made by some replicator out of thin air - they need raw materials, transportation, various skill level workers, machinery (with it's accompanying depreciation and maintenance), stockers, checkout staff, drivers, warehouse staff. Every one of which needs paying for, before the government take their cut in taxes and excise duty.

The profit raked in by the "fat cat" billionaires is negligible compared to the total required to pay everyone else.

PS - Not to make suggestions, but everything from post 18 onward might be better split from this thread and given it's own.
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everything from post 18 onward might be better split from this thread and given it's own.

That's a great idea. Move it to the boxing ring and we can continue having a discussion.