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Which way to space??
« on: November 25, 2013, 08:40:23 AM »

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Re: Which way to space??
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2013, 02:12:21 PM »
If sombody would have told me in 1989 that before 2013 American would have to call  on Russia to get American's into space, I would have called them a damn liar. 
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Re: Which way to space??
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2013, 02:28:39 PM »
Regardless of who leads us there, I am very much looking forward to the future of space exploration. Fusion, dark matter technology and nanotechnology will pave the way.

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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2013, 04:20:09 PM »
It's all about priorities.  The drag of obamaphones or the future.
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2013, 04:44:43 PM »
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Which way to space??


Straight up. Just keep on going.
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Re: Which way to space??
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2013, 05:22:35 PM »

Straight up. Just keep on going.
Ah, but that pesky thing called gravity keeps pulling us back down!

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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2013, 05:24:34 PM »
Ah, but that pesky thing called gravity keeps pulling us back down!

7 miles per second. Nothing can stop you then! :laugh:
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Re: Which way to space??
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2013, 05:55:59 PM »

Straight up. Just keep on going.

This made me laugh out loud.  :silly:

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Re: Which way to space??
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2013, 06:30:18 PM »
Here's a thought to chew on.

The platinum group of metals (ruthenium, rhodium, palladium, osmium, iridium, and platinum) all tend to occur together in naturally occurring elemental iron and nickel ores.  It is common enough that you can calculate how many grams of each of those elements is included in each ton of mined iron-nickle ore.  In fact, iron-nickel is a very common elemental combination throughout our own solar system.

Consider the Oort cloud of trillions of pieces of orbital debris, along with the trillions of rocky asteroids in the asteroid belt.  If the platinum group of metals occur at the rate of .002 grams per ton of nickel ore, how much by weight would there be in an iron-nickle planetoid that masses 2 trillion long tons??

And what about harnessing the energy of the sun with fairly simple reflectors to smelt that iron-nickle and start some serious heavy construction in space using materials we don't have to pay to lift out of the gravity well??

The possibilities are simply endless.  At some point we need to quit screwing around in LOE and move up and out.  The ISS is only supposed to last for 20 years or so and the clock is ticking on it.  There is plenty of incentive for private companies to start working toward space, several already are and not just in tourist business either.  I've heard of a couple of prospective mining companies out there with designs on the drawing board right now, and there is no telling what will be going on in another decade or two, or even in another century....




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Re: Which way to space??
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2013, 06:38:04 PM »
Consider the Oort cloud of trillions of pieces of orbital debris, along with the trillions of rocky asteroids in the asteroid belt.  If the platinum group of metals occur at the rate of .002 grams per ton of nickel ore, how much by weight would there be in an iron-nickle planetoid that masses 2 trillion long tons??


I forget where I read it, but not long ago I was reading an article that said we'll soon be working on technology to snare resource rich objects that orbit close to Earth. That kind of thing is definitely going to be happening in the not so distant future.

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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2013, 07:03:29 PM »
Here's a thought to chew on.

The platinum group of metals (ruthenium, rhodium, palladium, osmium, iridium, and platinum) all tend to occur together in naturally occurring elemental iron and nickel ores.  It is common enough that you can calculate how many grams of each of those elements is included in each ton of mined iron-nickle ore.  In fact, iron-nickel is a very common elemental combination throughout our own solar system.

Consider the Oort cloud of trillions of pieces of orbital debris, along with the trillions of rocky asteroids in the asteroid belt.  If the platinum group of metals occur at the rate of .002 grams per ton of nickel ore, how much by weight would there be in an iron-nickle planetoid that masses 2 trillion long tons??

And what about harnessing the energy of the sun with fairly simple reflectors to smelt that iron-nickle and start some serious heavy construction in space using materials we don't have to pay to lift out of the gravity well??

The possibilities are simply endless.  At some point we need to quit screwing around in LOE and move up and out.  The ISS is only supposed to last for 20 years or so and the clock is ticking on it.  There is plenty of incentive for private companies to start working toward space, several already are and not just in tourist business either.  I've heard of a couple of prospective mining companies out there with designs on the drawing board right now, and there is no telling what will be going on in another decade or two, or even in another century....

I borrowed that concept from "Web between the worlds" and just inverted it to make spaceship hulls.
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