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Offline Rapunzel

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Obamacare- Deductibles are the death panels
« on: November 19, 2013, 10:59:16 PM »

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Re: Obamacare- Deductibles are the death panels
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2013, 11:13:49 PM »
Yup.  Been there, done that.  Thanks for taking away my health care Obama.

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Re: Obamacare- Deductibles are the death panels
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2013, 11:50:22 PM »
Instead of all those high deductibles and out-of-pocket costs, people would be a lot better off paying their own way, except for catastrophic care. Most people don't spend $1000 per year in health care bills. Perhaps the concentration should have been catastrophic care, but then, that would ruin Obama's power trip.

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Re: Obamacare- Deductibles are the death panels
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2013, 11:55:55 PM »
Instead of all those high deductibles and out-of-pocket costs, people would be a lot better off paying their own way, except for catastrophic care. Most people don't spend $1000 per year in health care bills. Perhaps the concentration should have been catastrophic care, but then, that would ruin Obama's power trip.

Before Obamacare catastrophic care was a lot cheaper.

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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2013, 11:58:14 PM »
Oh BTW Kelly Ayoette was on Kelly File and going on about how many hospitals are kicked out of the exchanges and doctors kicked out of the hospitals - said she is getting calls from her citizens daily... she said one is a pregnant woman who cannot deliver (now) at her local hospital and will have to drive an hour from her home to deliver.

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Re: Obamacare- Deductibles are the death panels
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2013, 12:03:29 AM »

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Re: Obamacare- Deductibles are the death panels
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2013, 12:07:50 AM »
Instead of all those high deductibles and out-of-pocket costs, people would be a lot better off paying their own way, except for catastrophic care. Most people don't spend $1000 per year in health care bills. Perhaps the concentration should have been catastrophic care, but then, that would ruin Obama's power trip.

That's exactly what I want, at least for myself.  What I'm afraid of personally is getting hit by a bus and not being able to take care of my family; I can deal with paying for my own garden variety prescriptions and visits to the doctor; I certainly don't need to pay for mandatory abortion coverage.  If I could purchase a basic hospitalization/major medical policy, the premium savings would more than fully fund my average out of pocket costs - I know, because I've done the math.  Instead, what I have amounts to having catastrophic coverage, but with a premium that's so high I can't afford to pay for any of my normal health care, and with a deductible that will still ruin me financially, even if that obama-policy eventually kicks in and starts covering the hospital bills.

Thanks for taking my health care away from me Obama (and all of you effing liberals, too).




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Re: Obamacare- Deductibles are the death panels
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2013, 02:08:47 PM »
I just renewed my employer based plan for 2014. The Doctor Visit Co-Pay went up 300%.   
It has been $15 per doctor visit for years, then bumped to $20 in 2013, - not a big deal.   But for 2014  it has skyrocketed to $60 per visit.   Makes you wonder what will happen in 2015 when the 1-year large company extension runs out.
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Re: Obamacare- Deductibles are the death panels
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2013, 03:05:02 PM »
I just renewed my employer based plan for 2014. The Doctor Visit Co-Pay went up 300%.   
It has been $15 per doctor visit for years, then bumped to $20 in 2013, - not a big deal.   But for 2014  it has skyrocketed to $60 per visit.   Makes you wonder what will happen in 2015 when the 1-year large company extension runs out.

Heck $60 a visit is more than most carriers even pay for a regular office visit and is what we charge our "established" cash patients.

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Re: Obamacare- Deductibles are the death panels
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2013, 07:55:07 PM »
Heck $60 a visit is more than most carriers even pay for a regular office visit and is what we charge our "established" cash patients.

Nearly everyone has house insurance that covers catastrophes. When the pipes are clogged, we call the plumber. When the furnace breaks down, we call a heating company. The same for repairmen for appliances. If our house insurance covered all these incidentals, it would sky-rocket. The same goes for our vehicles. We pay for oil changes and new tires. Insurance covers the big stuff, like accidents. Health insurance should be run the same way, since the government is sponsoring it.

 Many don't believe in vaccinations, so why should they pay for someone else's. The same for abortions. The republicans should come up with a bill to address these issues, and make it easy to understand, as well as brief and to the point. No loopholes!

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Re: Obamacare- Deductibles are the death panels
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2013, 10:07:30 PM »
Nearly everyone has house insurance that covers catastrophes. When the pipes are clogged, we call the plumber. When the furnace breaks down, we call a heating company. The same for repairmen for appliances. If our house insurance covered all these incidentals, it would sky-rocket. The same goes for our vehicles. We pay for oil changes and new tires. Insurance covers the big stuff, like accidents. Health insurance should be run the same way, since the government is sponsoring it.

 Many don't believe in vaccinations, so why should they pay for someone else's. The same for abortions. The republicans should come up with a bill to address these issues, and make it easy to understand, as well as brief and to the point. No loopholes!

exactly. 


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