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EPA bans most wood-burning stoves
« on: November 18, 2013, 06:17:29 AM »
EPA Bans Most Wood-Burning Stoves

Written by: Tara Dodrill  Politics October 2, 2013   358 Comments



Wood-burning stoves offer warmth and enhance off-grid living options during cold weather months, but the tried-and-true heating devices now are under attack by the Environmental Protection Agency.

The EPA has banned the production and sale of the types of stoves used by about 80 percent of those with such stoves. The regulations limit the amount of “airborne fine-particle matter” to 12 micrograms per cubic meter of air. The current EPA regulations allow for 15 micrograms in the same amount of air space.

Most of the wood stoves currently nestled inside cabins and homes from coast-to-coast don’t meet the new environmental standard. The EPA launched a “Burn Wise” website to help convince the public that the new regulations were needed.

Trading in an old stove for a newer stove isn’t allowed.

“Replacing an older stove with a cleaner-burning stove will not improve air quality if the older stove is reused somewhere else,” the website says. “For this reason, wood stove change out programs usually require older stoves to be destroyed and recycled as scrap metal, or rendered inoperable.”

In some areas of the country, local governments have gone further than the EPA and banned not just the sale of such stoves, but the usage of old stoves – and even the usage of fireplaces. That means that even if you still have a stove or a fireplace, you can’t burn it for fear of a fine. Puget Sound, Washington, is one such location.

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Burn Wise is a partnership program associated with the EPA that is tasked with emphasizing the “importance of burning the right wood, the right way, in the right stove.” Information shared on the website operated by the federal government also states that both state and local agencies are pursuing ways to improve air quality that relate to wood-burning stoves.

The overall goal of the EPA Burn Wise program is to educate both local governmental agencies and citizens about the need for more “cleaner-burning” in the marketplace. Three of the most recent highlighted articles and webinars on the EPA Burn Wise website include details about a voluntary wood burning fireplace program, strategies for reducing residential wood some in state, tribal, and local communities, and a recording entitled, “Reducing Residential Wood Some: Is it Worth it?”

The EPA also has compiled a list of “approved” stoves.

According to a Washington Times review of the wood stove ban, the most dangerous aspect of the EPA proposed guidelines is the one-size-fits-all approach to the perceived problem. The same wood burning stove rules would apply to both heavily air-pollution laden major cities and far cleaner rural regions with extremely cooler temperatures. Families living in Alaska, or off the grid in wilderness area in the West, will most likely have extreme difficulty remaining in their cold, secluded homes if the EPA wood stove rules are approved.

The Times further said that wood burning stoves put less airborne fine-particle manner in the air than is present from secondhand some in a closed vehicle. When an individual smokes inside a car with the windows up, passengers are reportedly exposed to approximately 4,000 micrograms of soot per cubic meter.

Wrote the Times’ editorial board:

“Alaska’s 663,000 square miles is mostly forested, offering residents an abundant source of affordable firewood. When county officials floated a plan to regulate the burning of wood, residents were understandably inflamed. ‘Everybody wants clean air. We just have to make sure that we can also heat our homes,’ state Rep. Tammie Wilson told the Associated Press. Rather than fret over EPA’s computer-model-based warning about the dangers of inhaling soot from wood smoke, residents have more pressing concerns on their minds such as the immediate risk of freezing when the mercury plunges
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Re: EPA bans most wood-burning stoves
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2013, 07:35:19 AM »
Does this mean the old style stove can no longer be used?

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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2013, 07:38:56 AM »
Does this mean the old style stove can no longer be used?

No....it means that the first person from the EPA that goes into the field to enforce this may end up in the backyard woodchipper......like in the move FARGO.
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Re: EPA bans most wood-burning stoves
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2013, 07:45:52 AM »
No....it means that the first person from the EPA that goes into the field to enforce this may end up in the backyard woodchipper......like in the move FARGO.

That's what it is going to mean here in my backwoods of Kentucky. 

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Re: EPA bans most wood-burning stoves
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2013, 07:46:47 AM »
Does this mean the old style stove can no longer be used?

According to my reading of it - they can be used while in their original position. They simply can't be sold on or traded in when you need to buy a new one. If you have to remove them for repairs or cleaning - that is totally unclear, no surprises there.

On a slightly related side note - anyone know where I can get mica sheets? Our front room wood stove (Enamelled French one from 1855) needs to be reglazed. One of the kids broke two of the panels.
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Re: EPA bans most wood-burning stoves
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2013, 07:49:39 AM »
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Re: EPA bans most wood-burning stoves
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2013, 07:55:36 AM »
According to my reading of it - they can be used while in their original position. They simply can't be sold on or traded in when you need to buy a new one. If you have to remove them for repairs or cleaning - that is totally unclear, no surprises there.

On a slightly related side note - anyone know where I can get mica sheets? Our front room wood stove (Enamelled French one from 1855) needs to be reglazed. One of the kids broke two of the panels.


I think you might be able to get it here:

http://www.ashevillemica.com/
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2013, 08:04:50 AM »
I think you might be able to get it here:

http://www.ashevillemica.com/


Thank you Alice! They even have the exact size I need! Fired off an email to make sure they ship internationally.
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Re: EPA bans most wood-burning stoves
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2013, 08:15:19 AM »
I not only burn wood in my stove, but sometimes coal, too. I'm saving a large quantity of the latter for an emergency situation.

In the meantime, I would like to see the EPA burn to the ground.  Defund it.
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2013, 08:23:50 AM »
I not only burn wood in my stove, but sometimes coal, too. I'm saving a large quantity of the latter for an emergency situation.

In the meantime, I would like to see the EPA burn to the ground.  Defund it.

You probably already have, but make very sure your pipes and chimneys have been swept recently. Combination of wood resin and coal soot makes for bad chimney fires.
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Re: EPA bans most wood-burning stoves
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2013, 08:25:40 AM »
No....it means that the first person from the EPA that goes into the field to enforce this may end up in the backyard woodchipper......like in the move FARGO.

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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2013, 08:30:02 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2013, 08:35:36 AM »
Thank you Alice! They even have the exact size I need! Fired off an email to make sure they ship internationally.

Good!

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Re: EPA bans most wood-burning stoves
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2013, 08:47:08 AM »
You probably already have, but make very sure your pipes and chimneys have been swept recently. Combination of wood resin and coal soot makes for bad chimney fires.

Good advice.

I have had my chimney cleaned every three years or so. But last year, the original ceramic walls of my chimney flue began to crack and collapse, due to repeated cycles of freezing and thawing over the course of 30+ New Hampshire winters. I had the flue routed out and removed (you should have heard that lovely sound), and replaced by a stainless steel chimney liner, topped by a new cap and crown.

During the course of their work, the repair team discovered that the original thimble (the pipe connecting the stove to the chimney) had never been properly connected and insulated, which might have caused a fire. Having dodged a bullet there, we opted to install a new thimble and current-standard insulation.

My stove is over 40 years old and not as efficient as modern versions, but it does burn well and heats about half the house during the winter months.
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Re: EPA bans most wood-burning stoves
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2013, 01:23:31 PM »
Good advice.

I have had my chimney cleaned every three years or so. But last year, the original ceramic walls of my chimney flue began to crack and collapse, due to repeated cycles of freezing and thawing over the course of 30+ New Hampshire winters. I had the flue routed out and removed (you should have heard that lovely sound), and replaced by a stainless steel chimney liner, topped by a new cap and crown.

During the course of their work, the repair team discovered that the original thimble (the pipe connecting the stove to the chimney) had never been properly connected and insulated, which might have caused a fire. Having dodged a bullet there, we opted to install a new thimble and current-standard insulation.

My stove is over 40 years old and not as efficient as modern versions, but it does burn well and heats about half the house during the winter months.

If you are suggesting you don't believe what the EPA says, you are a racist for opposing any program the Obama administration proposes. :patriot:  Good for you, that means you are exercising your right to think for yourself, something leftists cannot live with. :seeya:
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Re: EPA bans most wood-burning stoves
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2013, 01:28:09 PM »
No....it means that the first person from the EPA that goes into the field to enforce this may end up in the backyard woodchipper......like in the move FARGO.

Perhaps this is the beginning of the next Whiskey Rebellion - perhaps we can call it the hickory rebellion?


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