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The Common Core standards demand that students know certain things by certain grade levels, but do little to describe how teachers should impart those skills.

Be very wary of that. Fixing that bit makes it even more "one size fits all."

Our National Curriculum (It's Common Core on steroids) tried to do just that. It did not work well.
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Be very wary of that. Fixing that bit makes it even more "one size fits all."

Our National Curriculum (It's Common Core on steroids) tried to do just that. It did not work well.

When America was at its strongest, most creative, most powerful the federalies had little to do with education except what it was supposed to do which was only encourage it.  As soon as the evil dragon got it's talens on education, the fall from grace was initiated. :doa:
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
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When America was at its strongest, most creative, most powerful the federalies had little to do with education except what it was supposed to do which was only encourage it.  As soon as the evil dragon got it's talens on education, the fall from grace was initiated. :doa:

 :amen:  brother!   :amen:

What now passes for education in the public realm is nothing more than indoctrination!


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Just another example of the "we know what's best for you" mentality or our rulers.   Who cares what parents think?

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Just another example of the "we know what's best for you" mentality or our rulers.   Who cares what parents think?

"Your children are belong to us..."

And a gratuitous swipe at white people for good measure.

If you ever wonder about a statement being racist, substitute black for white, and see if it would pass the test that way.

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And a gratuitous swipe at white people for good measure.

If you ever wonder about a statement being racist, substitute black for white, and see if it would pass the test that way.

Well said and absolutely true!

But double standards are coin of the realm these days!

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Just another example of the "we know what's best for you" mentality or our rulers.   Who cares what parents think?

"Your children are belong to us..."

Exactly!!  And someone remind me, why is it that we have the extra-Constitutional feral Department of Eduction to being with???

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And a gratuitous swipe at white people for good measure.

If you ever wonder about a statement being racist, substitute black for white, and see if it would pass the test that way.

Yes.  It certainly is...

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How about we teach reading, writing, arithmetic, geography, civics, and HONEST history instead of the garbage they are now pushing!

Because they have absolutely no interest in that at all??

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Exactly!!  And someone remind me, why is it that we have the extra-Constitutional feral Department of Eduction to being with???

Because JIMMUIH CAAATA had to find a way to pay back those teachers unions for supporting him!

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Because they have absolutely no interest in that at all??

And hence the problem we face!

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How about we teach reading, writing, arithmetic, geography, civics, REAL science, and HONEST history instead of the garbage they are now pushing!

The structural problems we face as a nation are known... as are the solutions.  It's not difficult.

The unrecognized problem is that some powerful, wealthy group has a definite reason for destroying American and is working persistently toward that end.  Waking up to that fact is the first step.

You must know who your enemy is before you can resist him...


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The structural problems we face as a nation are known... as are the solutions.  It's not difficult.

The unrecognized problem is that some powerful, wealthy group has a definite reason for destroying American and is working persistently toward that end.  Waking up to that fact is the first step.

You must know who your enemy is before you can resist him...

The enemy is the Fabian Society http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society and all others like them!
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The enemy is the Fabian Society http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society and all others like them!

They would be one facet that we can see.

It's the ones in the shadows that are the biggest problem...


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Because JIMMUIH CAAATA had to find a way to pay back those teachers unions for supporting him!

It's a shame that it hasn't been jettisoned since.  I recall that Reagan wanted to just that, but someone, I think that it was Howard Baker, put the kabosh on that in the Senate.  Could have avoided a whole host of problems since.

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And hence the problem we face!

Yup!  Public education in this country has been designed for control and social engineering from the onset.  The problems trace back far before Dewey and the unions.  It just wasn't as apparent when there actually was some real "educating" going on.

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They would be one facet that we can see.

It's the ones in the shadows that are the biggest problem...

Yes, the Fabians have been a source of much of it, as was Gramsci's "long march through the institutions."  But you are 100% correct, it is the group(s) that never see the light of day that are indeed the biggest problem.


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One of the biggest issues i have is they teach kids WHAT to think instead of HOW to think.
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One of the biggest issues i have is they teach kids WHAT to think instead of HOW to think.

Much safer that way.

Just watch people pile-on to anyone who thinks differently that the accepted paradigm requires...


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One of the biggest issues i have is they teach kids WHAT to think instead of HOW to think.

This is one of my pet peeves about education today.  In my many years of education, I heard the subject discussed on numerous occasions.  However, the state and national tests are not interested in assessing how kids think, only in what  they think.  Of course, that is the leftist way of indoctrinating kids since kids who can think won't accept the leftist ways.  Only if they are indoctrinated will they accept being put in chains. :headbang:
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One of the biggest issues i have is they teach kids WHAT to think instead of HOW to think.

That my lady is the definition of indoctrination!


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