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Tensions escalate between Democrats, White House
« on: November 13, 2013, 02:51:23 PM »

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Re: Tensions escalate between Democrats, White House
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2013, 03:41:48 PM »
Eshoo's district included Silicon Valley, and she won last time 62% to 30%.

So she's not speaking up out of political fear for herself, but for all her democrat colleagues.

Long before you get to the website, the basic design has to work.

Forcing people to put more of their dollars into health insurance, does not go down well, even in democrat districts.

Forcing healthy young uninsured to buy insurance, and forcing people to pay for stuff they didn't want or have, just so Obama's constituency of ghetto crack mommas could have Cadillac coverage is a failed math equation.
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Re: Tensions escalate between Democrats, White House
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2013, 03:49:15 PM »
The Democrats are screwed.  There is no way out of this for them.

Restoring the old plans cuts the legs out from under Obamacare.

Not allowing those with the old plans to keep them pisses off more and more people.  Just wait til the employer plans get cancelled and another 100 million people are without policies.

They're painted into a corner with no exit.
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Re: Tensions escalate between Democrats, White House
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2013, 03:51:42 PM »
Except Limbaugh Theorem. Single Payer.

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Re: Tensions escalate between Democrats, White House
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2013, 03:54:02 PM »
Except Limbaugh Theorem. Single Payer.

Single payer?  There's no support for single payer, especially now.  If anything, the Republicans should offer a plan with tax credits, sales across state lines, and HSAs. 

Rush is wrong a lot lately, too.  Just like Eric Erickson. 
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Re: Tensions escalate between Democrats, White House
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2013, 04:00:49 PM »

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Re: Tensions escalate between Democrats, White House
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2013, 04:02:53 PM »
They put all their faith in a Chicago community organizer with zero experience at running anything, and now they are shocked... SHOCKED to find OPapaCare is an unmitigated disaster.

Anyone who voted for OPapaCare lives in a political Hotel California.  They checked in but they won't be able to check out.
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Re: Tensions escalate between Democrats, White House
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2013, 04:06:04 PM »
They put all their faith in a Chicago community organizer with zero experience at running anything, and now they are shocked... SHOCKED to find OPapaCare is an unmitigated disaster.

Anyone who voted for OPapaCare lives in a political Hotel California.  They checked in but they won't be able to check out.

Grrrr - They can check out any time they like, but they can never leave.

Even more appropriate in this context - and closer to the lyrics.
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Re: Tensions escalate between Democrats, White House
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2013, 04:09:50 PM »
Grrrr - They can check out any time they like, but they can never leave.

Even more appropriate in this context - and closer to the lyrics.

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Re: Tensions escalate between Democrats, White House
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2013, 04:14:29 PM »
Grrrr - They can check out any time they like, but they can never leave.

Even more appropriate in this context - and closer to the lyrics.

Purists.  Sheesh.
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Re: Tensions escalate between Democrats, White House
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2013, 05:10:48 PM »
They put all their faith in a Chicago community organizer with zero experience at running anything, and now they are shocked... SHOCKED to find OPapaCare is an unmitigated disaster.

Anyone who voted for OPapaCare lives in a political Hotel California.  They checked in but they won't be able to check out.

Obama is such an egotist he will take down anyone who makes trouble for him, doesn't lie for him, or exposes him - including the democratic party.  I think he's a lot like Hitler who had thousands of Germans drowned because he felt they had abandoned him or felt they hadn't done enough to make the Reich the dream he had.  Democrats are so mean spirited I have to believe someone has had a psychological profile done on Obama and are really troubled by what he might do.  I have seen nothing to indicate that but people are still treading VERY lightly around him and had to have the Clintons really fire the first salvo because the feeling would be they are untouchable, even for Obama.
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Re: Tensions escalate between Democrats, White House
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2013, 05:18:55 PM »
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Re: Tensions escalate between Democrats, White House
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2013, 05:20:22 PM »
I have no idea what your problem is.  Insurance premiums are deductible only if they exceed a certain percentage of one's income.  And most people never get there.

As for tax credits, I am in favor of ANYTHING that lowers taxes for ANYBODY.

Then lower the tax rates across the board.  The credits are nothing more than another scam to be used to bleed honest taxpayers money out of the government.  Better yet the Fair Tax.

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Re: Tensions escalate between Democrats, White House
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2013, 10:12:26 PM »
sinkspur writes:
[[ As for tax credits, I am in favor of ANYTHING that lowers taxes for ANYBODY. ]]

I agree with you -- but can't figure out why, when I put up a post yesterday advocating a deduction for personally-purchased insurance premiums and a tax credit for out-of-pocket medical expenditures (before the "deductible limit" is reached), you said "no" to both of those ideas.
(you can read my original post here: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,119787.msg485400.html#msg485400
and you can read your response here: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,119787.msg485407.html#msg485407)

If people are going to be forced into buying insurance, the cost of the premiums should be deductible (or at least partially so).

And if the policies they do buy have high deductibles before they're even able to USE the insurance they've obtained, the cost of the care (before the deductible kicks in) should get a tax credit of some sort.

Many, MANY people are not going to be able to 1) afford "insurance" under ObamaCare and 2) are going to have a hard time paying before their artifically-high deductibles have been reached...
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Re: Tensions escalate between Democrats, White House
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2013, 04:59:43 AM »
Purists.  Sheesh.

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