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Charles Krauthammer: Death of 'liberalism'
« on: November 13, 2013, 08:45:53 AM »
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 Charles Krauthammer: Death of 'liberalism'
By: Jose DelReal
November 13, 2013 06:50 AM EST

Conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer sees “the collapse of American liberalism” in sight, in no small part because of the troubled rollout of the Affordable Care Act.

“We have not just Obamacare unraveling, not just the Obama administration unraveling, not just the Democratic majority of the Senate [unraveling], but we could be looking at the collapse of American liberalism,” Krauthammer told Bill O’Reilly Tuesday. “Obamacare is the big thing for them. The biggest in a hundred years.”

Krauthammer addressed tensions and tactical disagreements within the Republican Party — particularly related to the government shutdown in October — and said he believes this is an important opportunity for conservatives to unite.

“This is a moment where we have to be calm. We have to understand what holds us together on the right. We have to watch and explain why the failure of the left is happening. And if we do that, we will win,” he said.

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Re: Charles Krauthammer: Death of 'liberalism'
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2013, 08:56:54 AM »
Not so fast, big boy. :nono:  The death of the republican party was forecast after the election of the anointed one.  As Hitler noted people have incredibly short memories and with the MSM helping them, the liberals will be around for a long time, probably longer than the republicans if they don't do something to save themselves.  They're beginning to act like they are on welfare. 88kleenix
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Re: Charles Krauthammer: Death of 'liberalism'
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2013, 09:39:13 AM »
Dr. Krauthammer is right as rain! This Obamacare debacle has the potential to set liberalism back half a century! Whether or not that will be exploited remains to be seen and It definitely won't be done by the GOP if the current leaders of that party remain in their posts!

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Re: Charles Krauthammer: Death of 'liberalism'
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2013, 09:54:32 AM »
Not so fast, big boy. :nono:  The death of the republican party was forecast after the election of the anointed one.  As Hitler noted people have incredibly short memories and with the MSM helping them, the liberals will be around for a long time, probably longer than the republicans if they don't do something to save themselves.  They're beginning to act like they are on welfare. 88kleenix

Who knew Charlie was such a wide-eyed optimist?!

I agree with you rangerrebew, Charlie is dead wrong on this one.

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Re: Charles Krauthammer: Death of 'liberalism'
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2013, 10:03:13 AM »

“This is a moment where we have to be calm. We have to understand what holds us together on the right. We have to watch and explain why the failure of the left is happening. And if we do that, we will win,” he said.

Hmmm... didn't someone around here just preach something similar?
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Re: Charles Krauthammer: Death of 'liberalism'
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2013, 10:19:41 AM »
Hmmm... didn't someone around here just preach something similar?

Yep!    :nometalk:
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Re: Charles Krauthammer: Death of 'liberalism'
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2013, 10:30:09 AM »
Who knew Charlie was such a wide-eyed optimist?!

I agree with you rangerrebew, Charlie is dead wrong on this one.

I know that I'm just about as sick of the nattering nabobs of negativity on my side as I am the Dimocrats on the other side!

Plenty of mistakes have been made in the past - I know because I was witness to most of them -  but I fail to understand what is to be gained by whining over things that are already done and no one can do anything at all about!

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Re: Charles Krauthammer: Death of 'liberalism'
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2013, 10:34:04 AM »
Hmmm... didn't someone around here just preach something similar?

And anyone who thinks that what Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and the House republicans did damaged the cause in any way long term is delusional!

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Re: Charles Krauthammer: Death of 'liberalism'
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2013, 10:39:37 AM »
I know that I'm just about as sick of the nattering nabobs of negativity on my side as I am the Dimocrats on the other side!

Not sure what you're ranting about, but thank you Spiro.

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Re: Charles Krauthammer: Death of 'liberalism'
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2013, 10:49:39 AM »
Not sure what you're ranting about, but thank you Spiro.

What I'm ranting about is those around here who post nothing but negative comments about EVERYTHING!

Hope that clears it up for you!

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Re: Charles Krauthammer: Death of 'liberalism'
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2013, 10:53:37 AM »
What I'm ranting about is those around here who post nothing but negative comments about EVERYTHING!

Hope that clears it up for you!

Hmmmm... so you're being negative to, and about those who are negative?

I hope it works out better for you than it did for Spiro.

By the way, disagreeing with Charles Kruathammer's opinion is hardly negativity. Besides, Krauthammer is routinely derided for his Democrat past, so it's not like he's a pillar of conservatism.
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Re: Charles Krauthammer: Death of 'liberalism'
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2013, 10:54:59 AM »
Hmmmm... so you're being negative to, and about those who are negative?

I hope it works out better for you than it did for Spiro.

Thanks! I do appreciate that!

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Re: Charles Krauthammer: Death of 'liberalism'
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2013, 11:20:07 AM »
My head hurts.
For the progressive, there is very little to love about the United States. Washington, Jefferson, Madison? A bunch of rotten slaveholders, hypocrites, and cowards even when their hearts were in the right places. The Declaration of Independence? A manifesto for the propertied classes. The Constitution? An artifact of sexism and white supremacy. The sacrifices in the great wars of the 20th century? Feeding the poor and the disenfranchised into the meat-grinder of imperialism. The gifts of Carnegie, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Morgan, Astor? Blood money from self-aggrandizing robber barons. Nat Rev

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Re: Charles Krauthammer: Death of 'liberalism'
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2013, 11:22:54 AM »
Charles has tunnel vision on this one.  All he sees is the defeat of Liberalism, but those very same liberals are about to bring the Country to its knees.  Liberalism may fade away in the long term but it may well succeed in destroying the Republic in the process.


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Re: Charles Krauthammer: Death of 'liberalism'
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2013, 11:49:10 AM »
From the birth of mankind the unwashed will always find away around the Emperor. 
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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Re: Charles Krauthammer: Death of 'liberalism'
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2013, 11:52:00 AM »
Krauthammer could not be more wrong.  People are upset at Obama care, but they are addicts to the entitlement system.  The demographics and social mores of this society are making the matter worse.  Look for complete government healthcare as the solution.  S


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