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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2013, 06:47:00 AM »
The cure (an ever-expanding police state) is worse than the disease (personal drug use).
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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2013, 07:33:14 AM »
The solution is simple, IMO.

Legislate that if the authorities conduct a cavity search and find nothing....the person 'violated' gets $1 MILLION cash.


.....Oh....and get rid of any dog that doesn't know the difference between the scent of marijuana and never-mind.   :laugh: 
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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2013, 08:57:34 AM »
It's only a matter of time before these demented authorities develope a 4 handed procedure

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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2013, 09:24:17 AM »
New Mexico?  What is Gov. Martinez doing about this?  She's a Republican.  This is way over the line. 
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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2013, 12:49:43 PM »
Any word on the family dog?


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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2013, 01:22:08 PM »
After a drug-sniffing dog indicated that she might have drugs, police strip-searched her and then allegedly assault her by sticking their fingers into her vagina.

Those drug-dogs are trained to 'hit on command', giving the police all the 'evidence' they need to do whatever they want...


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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2013, 01:24:27 PM »
.....Oh....and get rid of any dog that doesn't know the difference between the scent of marijuana and never-mind. 

It's not the dog's fault.  Either the police are lying about the dog's response or they have trained the dog to give the proper response on command.

Please people... stop believing what you are told.  99% of the time it's total BS...


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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2013, 05:21:27 PM »
Where did they train these guys, San Francisco?

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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2013, 05:39:36 PM »
It's not the dog's fault.  Either the police are lying about the dog's response or they have trained the dog to give the proper response on command.

Please people... stop believing what you are told.  99% of the time it's total BS...

I don't know what the full truth is, but if I had no drugs on me, there is no way I would allow the abuse without a fight. I wonder if these people are known drug dealers? I can't think of any other reason for these types searches to happen. I have a suspicion these people are false flag operators.
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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2013, 05:57:30 PM »
I don't know what the full truth is, but if I had no drugs on me, there is no way I would allow the abuse without a fight. I wonder if these people are known drug dealers? I can't think of any other reason for these types searches to happen. I have a suspicion these people are false flag operators.

The Blaze had a report that one had a drug history and had actually done that before.  BUT (couldn't resist that), after an X-ray, it should have been obvious he had no drugs internally stashed.  Everything after that is WAY over the line.

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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2013, 03:31:13 AM »
It's not the dog's fault.  Either the police are lying about the dog's response or they have trained the dog to give the proper response on command.

Please people... stop believing what you are told.  99% of the time it's total BS...

Correct. Watched a fascinating documentary on sniffer dogs - both drugs and explosives - and they have a (slightly) over 50% false positive rate if they can see their handler. It isn't their fault at all. They pick up cues from their handler and respond accordingly. They don't even need be trained to respond on command, they will do so anyway.
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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2013, 06:36:07 AM »
Is it possible the dogs are mistaking the scent from skid marks on the underwear for dope? :silly:
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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2013, 06:56:48 AM »
Is it possible the dogs are mistaking the scent from skid marks on the underwear for dope? :silly:

 :tongue2: Actually - if you have money in your wallet and your wallet in your pocket, chances are very high (around 85%) you'd be a positive for cocaine.
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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2013, 07:55:30 AM »
Correct. Watched a fascinating documentary on sniffer dogs - both drugs and explosives - and they have a (slightly) over 50% false positive rate if they can see their handler. It isn't their fault at all. They pick up cues from their handler and respond accordingly. They don't even need be trained to respond on command, they will do so anyway.

Absolutely, the dog's goal is to please his master. The dog doesn't know he has a 'job'. The dog doesn't know he is acting as a judicial magistrate who is granting search authorization. The dog is just guessing what his master wants and is doing what will get a 'treat'. That is all. After all, ITS A DOG!
 
Off topic, DWI tests are similar. The most common thing for people to say when given the DUI test is, "I couldn't do this even if I was sober." And they are right. If you give a standard DWI test to a group of completely sober people, 50% will fail. And that is the point. You've been pulled over. You are nervous, scared, you have red/blue lights flashing, and maybe you have had a few, and then you are being asked to do these absured, unatural, 'tricks'. DWI test are designed for people to fail.
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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2013, 08:54:05 AM »
There was once a time in America when we valued judgment. We actually paid people to exercise judgment. But now we have a fully entrenched bureaucracy and everything is by the book.

It doesn't matter if you're capable of driving safely, if you're blood-alcohol level is certain number that's it buddy, the life you knew is over; if you're in an intersection and the light turned red .002 seconds ago you get a $45 ticket in the mail; if the edge of your inspection sticker is scratched that's a $65 ticket; if you don't have your engine running while you're at the parking meter getting your tag, the agent can still ticket your car.

There are thousands of examples covering all aspects of life in America today.
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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2013, 09:07:15 AM »
There was once a time in America when we valued judgment. We actually paid people to exercise judgment. But now we have a fully entrenched bureaucracy and everything is by the book.

It doesn't matter if you're capable of driving safely, if you're blood-alcohol level is certain number that's it buddy, the life you knew is over; if you're in an intersection and the light turned red .002 seconds ago you get a $45 ticket in the mail; if the edge of your inspection sticker is scratched that's a $65 ticket; if you don't have your engine running while you're at the parking meter getting your tag, the agent can still ticket your car.

There are thousands of examples covering all aspects of life in America today.

I agree AC.  Why not leave productive responsible adult citizens to live their life as THEY see fit?  The problem with our society is that we punish the good people along with the guilty and it drives away the motivation to succeed.  What is needed is to restore the notion of "actions have consequences".       
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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2013, 09:11:16 AM »
Surprise, surprise, surprise.

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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2013, 09:13:08 AM »
And all of this is the result of government - local, state and federal - trying to do too much. They need more and more of your money so they devise all these ways to separate you from your cash. It makes living in the city a nightmare.
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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2013, 09:13:38 AM »
And all of this is the result of government - local, state and federal - trying to do too much. They need more and more of your money so they devise all these ways to separate you from your cash. It makes living in the city a nightmare.

Which probably explains, in part, why even NYPD cops generally don't live in the city; they live in LI or NJ.  Personally, I'd go for LI over NJ.  Come join us outside the city, the water's much better out here!
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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2013, 09:19:15 AM »
I wonder when this "ripped from the headlines" story will hit Law and Order?  Probably never.
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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2013, 09:19:30 AM »
The cure (an ever-expanding police state) is worse than the disease (personal drug use).

Absolutely.  This War on (Some) Drugs has been a magnificent way to separate us from hundreds of billions of our dollars and to slowly tilt the populace toward giving up more and more freedom and liberty each passing day.  And sadly, it's been a huge success (though I doubt it's done a whit to lessen drug consumption)!!

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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2013, 09:20:29 AM »
It's not the dog's fault.  Either the police are lying about the dog's response or they have trained the dog to give the proper response on command.

Please people... stop believing what you are told.  99% of the time it's total BS...

Yup, pretty much!!

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Re: Stop the madness: third person reports being anally violated by police
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2013, 09:21:40 AM »
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