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Obama to free Gitmo jihadists who undergo "instruction in a peaceful form of Islam"



Which form is that? Jihad warfare against unbelievers is taught by all four major schools of Sunni jurisprudence.

Shafi'i school: A Shafi'i manual of Islamic law that was certified in 1991 by the clerics at Al-Azhar University, one of the leading authorities in the Islamic world, as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy, stipulates about jihad that “the caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians...until they become Muslim or pay the non-Muslim poll tax.” It adds a comment by Sheikh Nuh ‘Ali Salman, a Jordanian expert on Islamic jurisprudence: the caliph wages this war only “provided that he has first invited [Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians] to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya)...while remaining in their ancestral religions.” ('Umdat al-Salik, o9.8).

Of course, there is no caliph today, and hence the oft-repeated claim that Osama et al are waging jihad illegitimately, as no state authority has authorized their jihad. But they explain their actions in terms of defensive jihad, which needs no state authority to call it, and becomes "obligatory for everyone" ('Umdat al-Salik, o9.3) if a Muslim land is attacked. The end of the defensive jihad, however, is not peaceful coexistence with non-Muslims as equals: 'Umdat al-Salik specifies that the warfare against non-Muslims must continue until "the final descent of Jesus." After that, "nothing but Islam will be accepted from them, for taking the poll tax is only effective until Jesus' descent" (o9.8).

Hanafi school: A Hanafi manual of Islamic law repeats the same injunctions. It insists that people must be called to embrace Islam before being fought, “because the Prophet so instructed his commanders, directing them to call the infidels to the faith.” It emphasizes that jihad must not be waged for economic gain, but solely for religious reasons: from the call to Islam “the people will hence perceive that they are attacked for the sake of religion, and not for the sake of taking their property, or making slaves of their children, and on this consideration it is possible that they may be induced to agree to the call, in order to save themselves from the troubles of war.”

However, “if the infidels, upon receiving the call, neither consent to it nor agree to pay capitation tax [jizya], it is then incumbent on the Muslims to call upon God for assistance, and to make war upon them, because God is the assistant of those who serve Him, and the destroyer of His enemies, the infidels, and it is necessary to implore His aid upon every occasion; the Prophet, moreover, commands us so to do.” (Al-Hidayah, II.140)

Maliki school: Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406), a pioneering historian and philosopher, was also a Maliki legal theorist. In his renowned Muqaddimah, the first work of historical theory, he notes that “in the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and (the obligation to) convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force.” In Islam, the person in charge of religious affairs is concerned with “power politics,” because Islam is “under obligation to gain power over other nations.”

Hanbali school: The great medieval theorist of what is commonly known today as radical or fundamentalist Islam, Ibn Taymiyya (Taqi al-Din Ahmad Ibn Taymiyya, 1263-1328), was a Hanbali jurist. He directed that “since lawful warfare is essentially jihad and since its aim is that the religion is God’s entirely and God’s word is uppermost, therefore according to all Muslims, those who stand in the way of this aim must be fought.”

The Shi'ites teach it as well. The Ahmadis don't teach jihad violence, and are persecuted as heretics in Pakistan and Indonesia as a result.

So what peaceful form of Islam are these jihadis going to learn? It is likely to be just more smoke and mirrors, and the recidivism rate for these jihadis will be no different from that of other Gitmo jihadis who didn't learn about the Religion of Peace.

"Gitmo Terrorists Who Learn About Peaceful Form of Islam to Be Freed," from Judicial Watch, November 8:

The Obama administration is negotiating to release Guantanamo terrorists to a renowned Middle Eastern Al Qaeda training ground if the prisoners undergo “counseling, instruction in a peaceful form of Islam and job training.”

This is no joke, though it sounds like a bad one. Better yet, the famously corrupt and leftist United Nations is helping with the deal, which is being kept quiet and solidified in a western European country. A mainstream newspaper got wind of it and reported on it this week, revealing “previously undisclosed talks held in Rome recently because of security risks in Yemen,” the eventual landing spot for the prisoners.

The deal would involve transferring dozens of prisoners held at the U.S. Naval base in Guantanamo Cuba to a “detention facility” outside Yemen’s capital. “Deep disagreements remain on funding, and about whether it would function as another prison or as a halfway house for detainees to reenter society after years of confinement and isolation,” according to the news article, which quotes a U.S. official admitting “the risks are very high.”

That’s because Yemen, deemed a high security threat by the State Department for its terrorist activities, is an Al Qaeda hotbed and major base of Islamic militants. In fact, many of the Gitmo captives already released to Yemen have resumed their jihadist training, according intelligence reports. This led a powerful Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, California’s Dianne Feinstein, to join a group of Republicans to call for a halt of the flawed Yemeni repatriation program for Gitmo captives a few years ago.

Remember that it was a Yemen-trained terrorist who tried to bomb a U.S. airliner on Christmas a few years ago and an Al Qaeda wing in Yemen claimed responsibility for the attempt. Before that the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency revealed that an Al Qaeda leader in Yemen (Said Ali al-Shihri) was one of many who rejoined terrorist missions after being released from Gitmo to a Saudi Arabian “rehabilitation” program. Al-Shihri organized a deadly bombing of the United States Embassy in Yemen in 2008 and was involved in car bombings outside the American Embassy that killed at least 16 people.

It’s inconceivable that the administration is even considering releasing Gitmo captives to a Yemeni “halfway house.” Detainees at the facility would undergo counseling, instruction in a peaceful form of Islam, and job training in Yemen before any decision on freeing them, U.S. officials reveal in the newspaper article. They say the program would be modeled on a “largely successful Saudi effort to reintegrate Islamic militants into society” even though intelligence reports have shown a sharp rise in those who rejoin terrorist missions after going through the comical Saudi rehab.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/11/obama-to-free-gitmo-jihadists-who-undergo-instruction-in-a-peaceful-form-of-islam.html
« Last Edit: November 09, 2013, 05:38:47 AM by rangerrebew »
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Blowing up people, buildings and school buses . Tossing acid in women's faces. Beheadings. Stoning to death. How do you downgrade that to more peaceful? :banging:


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Blowing up people, buildings and school buses . Tossing acid in women's faces. Beheadings. Stoning to death. How do you downgrade that to more peaceful? :banging:

If they are dead they are definitely more peaceful! :2gunz:
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Oh........ this isn't going to end well................  **nononono*
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Lessseeee here.....

So.... if I understand it, all the Guantanamo prisoners have to do is sit through a few lectures, and for that they receive a "get out of jail free!" card ??

Who's NOT going to do that?

Looks like he's come up with another way to "close" the detention facility.
That is, by freeing all the prisoners!

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If they are dead they are definitely more peaceful! :2gunz:
Yep!  A jihadist is best at room temp!  :smokin:


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Unless this training is comparable to that dished out to the protagonist in A Clockwork Orange, this is just plain nuts.


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