Grover Norquist Calls Christie a ‘Strong Voice for Conservative Governance’

[Rapunzel]

Would you really prefer another Obama to a Christie?  Would President Hillary be preferable to President Christie?

Not a lot of difference between them. 

Both are arrogant blowhards,

Christie is:

anti-second amendment,

pro-amnesty,

pro-Mosque at Ground Zero,

appointed a Sharia judge to the court

expanded medicaid in his state,

refused to allow the NJ AG join to in the Obamacare lawsuits that went forward.

remember the hissy fit he pitched about all that money he wanted after Sandy?  Yet reports are it has not been well spent and a lot has gone missing.

Then there is all the stuff Romney campaign found on him that didn't even make him a candidate for VP because the media would have been all over his bad baggage (BERNIE MADOFF-Related) and Romney didn't want that to suck the air out of his campaign... he also refused to provide most of the documents Romney asked for to make the decision....

 But get real - do we REALLY want to fight the Bernie Madoff stuff during this election?  You think Hillary won't use it and everything else she probably already has on him? and look at Grover Norquist - if Grover is endorsing anyone run as fast as you can away from that candidate.

Like Hillary - Christie is all about Christie... any doubts, look at what he did to Romney - his speech at the convention was all about Christie and then "oh by the way, vote for Romney"... and don't forget he refused to allow Romney to fund raise in NJ, refused to let Romney travel to NJ after Sandy - yet even when the governor of NY and Bloomberg told Obama no.. Christie said - "come on down" and then all but French-kissed Obama.  And when Obama rewarded him with a meeting with Springstein - good grief he was an embarrassment... pulling a Boehner...   

Romney stood a chance - the race was that close until Christie cut him off at the knees. 

[Oceander]

Not a lot of difference between them. 

Both are arrogant blowhards,

Christie is:

anti-second amendment,

pro-amnesty,

pro-Mosque at Ground Zero,

appointed a Sharia judge to the court

expanded medicaid in his state,

refused to allow the NJ AG join to in the Obamacare lawsuits that went forward.

remember the hissy fit he pitched about all that money he wanted after Sandy?  Yet reports are it has not been well spent and a lot has gone missing.

Then there is all the stuff Romney campaign found on him that didn't even make him a candidate for VP because the media would have been all over his bad baggage (BERNIE MADOFF-Related) and Romney didn't want that to suck the air out of his campaign... he also refused to provide most of the documents Romney asked for to make the decision....

 But get real - do we REALLY want to fight the Bernie Madoff stuff during this election?  You think Hillary won't use it and everything else she probably already has on him? and look at Grover Norquist - if Grover is endorsing anyone run as fast as you can away from that candidate.

Like Hillary - Christie is all about Christie... any doubts, look at what he did to Romney - his speech at the convention was all about Christie and then "oh by the way, vote for Romney"... and don't forget he refused to allow Romney to fund raise in NJ, refused to let Romney travel to NJ after Sandy - yet even when the governor of NY and Bloomberg told Obama no.. Christie said - "come on down" and then all but French-kissed Obama.  And when Obama rewarded him with a meeting with Springstein - good grief he was an embarrassment... pulling a Boehner...   

Romney stood a chance - the race was that close until Christie cut him off at the knees. 

Whom would you prefer as President?  Let's keep it simple to start with:  it's a two-answer multiple choice question.

[Rapunzel]

Whom would you prefer as President?  Let's keep it simple to start with:  it's a two-answer multiple choice question.

Not sure right now.  Unlike some others here I am not ready to fall in love with someone.

[Oceander]

Not sure right now.  Unlike some others here I am not ready to fall in love with someone.

Love really shouldn't have anything to do with it.  It's more like picking your gardener than picking your spouse; I don't have to love my gardener, I just have to prefer what he does with my garden more than what anyone else can do with it.

[Rapunzel]

Love really shouldn't have anything to do with it.  It's more like picking your gardener than picking your spouse; I don't have to love my gardener, I just have to prefer what he does with my garden more than what anyone else can do with it.

More than anything I don't want someone who isn't clean enough that he or she can go after all of the Clinton scandals........ this business of people claiming only so and so can win should have taught us a lesson last year.  Frankly I still think Perry could have run the table if he hadn't had back surgery and his brain been scrambled due to the pain meds... but we will never know.

Remember when we told people Romney could not fight Obamacare because he had Romneycare in his resume?  Well how is Christie going to fight Whitewater and other scandals when he has his own... just google Christie and Madoff and you get rheams of stuff and this is from 2011......... wait until 2016....

http://www.theawl.com/2011/09/the-chris-christie-madoff-attack-ad-that-writes-itself

The Chris Christie-Madoff Attack Ad That Writes Itself
Abe Sauer | September 27th, 2011

In their ever-widening search for somebody who is not Mitt Romney, conservatives are now souring on Rick Perry and turning their desperate, flailing hopes toward Chris Christie. For his part, Christie says he's not running (but Republicans note that he keeps acting the part).

But should the New Jersey governor decide to dive into the shallow end that is the GOP nomination race, here's a lesser known part of his past that might doom him in the general election.

Christie's failings with hard-right Republicans have been well documented. He favors "some of the gun-control measures." He has gone from denying climate-change to an admission that "climate change is real." Maybe most egregiously, he appointed a judge with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. Also harmful, Christie is both a hippo and a RINO.

Yet, as I discovered while among Michele Bachmann's doomed followers, Christie is still the top name of many conservatives' "dream ticket." Yet, should he enter the race and get past the primary, his chances in the general election are dicey. And there's one particular incident in his past that's practically a gift-wrapped present to Democrats.

Before he was flying in state helicopters to his kid's baseball games, Christie was flying on private jets as part of the law firm Dughi, Hewit & Palatucci, for whom, as a lobbyist, the future governor fought for the rights of Wall Street. In fact, one of Christie's primary lobbying projects on behalf of Wall Street was to win an exemption for securities fraud from New Jersey's Consumer Fraud Act. For those Americans whose 401(k)s have been gouged in the last few years, that won't play well. (The only reason this wasn't much of an issue in his gubernatorial campaign was because his opponent was Jon Corzine, who sucked off Wall Street's teat with even more gusto than Christie.)

But it gets worse for Christie.

In a detail that practically writes its own commercial script, the Wall Street client on whose behalf Christie lobbied was the Securities Industry Association. Which, at that time, was led by one Mr. Bernard Madoff.

The bottom line for Obama's communication team: As a lobbyist, Chris Christie worked to remove securities fraud from a consumer fraud act on behalf of an organization run by Bernie Madoff.

It's exactly the kind of scandal that's easy to understand no matter who you are, involves a universally despised villain who has come to represent all the illegality of the 2008 market collapse, and it would be devastating to Christie in much-needed Florida.

[truth_seeker]

It's the bluntly practical question.  There is, of course, a mirror question:  would you prefer President Hillary to President Cruz?

No.

But I don't think he's the one that could defeat her.

[olde north church]

No.

But I don't think he's the one that could defeat her.

She is not Goliath.
What we don't need is a shitload of vanity of runs who are only there to raise their own profile to sell books, raise their speaking engagement rate or get on more Sunday shows.  I thought conservatives were supposed to be intelligent and ideology concerned.  Couldn't prove it by "Sweater Vest", "Pizza Man", "Crazy Eyed Ex-Girlfriend" or "Professor Leave Cancer Wife".
Actually, I believe Rap is more indicative of politics than anything.  It's our side that's been dropping out of the voting booth.  We've been scolded, scared and screwed over by the "Establishment" that we just say "WTF and go Galt".  I was so close to not voting the last two elections.  Palin got my vote in '08, not McCain and the thought we might defeat the trainwreck in '12 got me out of my easy chair and down to the voting booth.

[DCPatriot]

Love really shouldn't have anything to do with it.  It's more like picking your gardener than picking your spouse; I don't have to love my gardener, I just have to prefer what he does with my garden more than what anyone else can do with it.

Thanks for bringing common sense to the thread, Oceander!   

[aligncare]

I am not going to be badgered for the next three years like I was for Romney... we tried to tell all of you Romney couldn't win but you all had stars in your eyes for that moderate candidate which the same people here now pimping for Christie had and posted day in and day out the ONLY PERSON WHO CAN BEAT OBAMA is Romney -- that is all you said day in and day out .... Romney, Romney, Romney.......  one day when the GOP no longer exists you will find out giving the middle finger to conservatives is not the way to win the WH.

 Romney said"I don't need conservatives" and now Christie has already said "I don't need conservatives."  Well they let winning in a blue state go to their heads thinking they don't need conservatives -- newsflash -- they NEED conservatives.  Christie thinks it's really cute to go after Rand Paul and other conservatives. Well the rest of the country is not New Jersey....  and his comments are contemptable.

Wait a minute! Do you have a crystal ball? Who's to say Gingrich – or any other Republican – would have won against Obama?

[aligncare]

I realize it doesn't bother you passively living in one of the highest tax, most liberal states in the nation, so I don't really expect you to understand how offensive it is that the GOPe has served notice they are out to DESTROY the conservative wing of the GOP....... they are no better than the Democrats... when you have McCain calling Cruz and Lee "whacko birds" and Chris Christie stating he has no use for conservatives -- do not insult me by telling me you expect me to vote for the people who are insulting me in such a blatant manner.

Conservatives – including you – were and are attacking Christie. So he lashed out and said he doesn't need conservatives. Which, in his state, helps with reelection. But, he also said affirmatively he's a conservative and has shown through governance that he is a conservative – erased $11B in budget deficit via spending cuts, pro-life, pro traditional marriage, 2% cap on municipal spending, cut business taxes by $600 million annually, stood up to the teachers union.

I'd much rather have a conservative in deed than in talk.

[rustynail]

So the GOP Briefing Room is a Pro Christie site?

[aligncare]

Oooo, scairweeey – people have opinions.

[DCPatriot]

So the GOP Briefing Room is a Pro Christie site?

Are you a troll?

....coming onto a thread where a few of us are defending a choice between MORE Communist Socialist tyranny or a U-turn onto Free Markets and less regulation and personal freedom?

Get lost.

The Briefing Room is more than Pookey's Toons.   [/s]

[katzenjammer]

Norquist is a dhimmi to the nth degree, a filthy quisling deserving no respect or attention.  That he supports the other filth of his ilk, not surprising at all, not one bit...

[katzenjammer]

Norquist is also a huge lover of amnesty for illegal aliens.  He is not a true Conservative.

"Conservative" is one of the last labels that should ever be applied to this cur.

[katzenjammer]

Wrong. I voted for Reagan both runs for Governor and every run for President. I even attended one of his fund-raising dinners in Anaheim when he was running for Governor and met he and Nancy,    Christie is no RR, not even a close fifth or sixth, Regan was never an obnoxious loudmouth and he would not have gone around trash conservatives and telling anyone who will listen:  "I don't need conservatives to get elected,"  Well.. maybe in NJ when he had no one to run against he didn't, but in the rest of the freaking county he would and trashing conservatives is no way to kick off your run for President unless you WANT them to stay home.

Spot on, Rap!!  To compare this POS to Reagan is just unthinkable!!

[katzenjammer]

Not a lot of difference between them. 

Both are arrogant blowhards,

Christie is:

anti-second amendment,

pro-amnesty,

pro-Mosque at Ground Zero,

appointed a Sharia judge to the court

expanded medicaid in his state,

refused to allow the NJ AG join to in the Obamacare lawsuits that went forward.

remember the hissy fit he pitched about all that money he wanted after Sandy?  Yet reports are it has not been well spent and a lot has gone missing.

Then there is all the stuff Romney campaign found on him that didn't even make him a candidate for VP because the media would have been all over his bad baggage (BERNIE MADOFF-Related) and Romney didn't want that to suck the air out of his campaign... he also refused to provide most of the documents Romney asked for to make the decision....

 But get real - do we REALLY want to fight the Bernie Madoff stuff during this election?  You think Hillary won't use it and everything else she probably already has on him? and look at Grover Norquist - if Grover is endorsing anyone run as fast as you can away from that candidate.

Like Hillary - Christie is all about Christie... any doubts, look at what he did to Romney - his speech at the convention was all about Christie and then "oh by the way, vote for Romney"... and don't forget he refused to allow Romney to fund raise in NJ, refused to let Romney travel to NJ after Sandy - yet even when the governor of NY and Bloomberg told Obama no.. Christie said - "come on down" and then all but French-kissed Obama.  And when Obama rewarded him with a meeting with Springstein - good grief he was an embarrassment... pulling a Boehner...   

Romney stood a chance - the race was that close until Christie cut him off at the knees.

Exactly!  Anyone thinking that there is any substantive difference between them, isn't really thinking!!

[Bigun]

In case anyone is interested, THIS is the course I will follow.

In the primaries I will work as hard as I possibly can at every level to see that the most conservative candidate possible gets the Republican nomination.  In the general election I will vote a straight Republican ticket because doing anything else is madness!

RINOS won't follow that course! If they don't get their way they will tun on the nominee and help the Democrat win.

[aligncare]

Spot on, Rap!!  To compare this POS to Reagan is just unthinkable!!

Why don't you tell us the story of how you didn't vote for RINO Romney. I'm sure that'll impress the hell out of us suffering under Obama's tyrannical rule.

Great strategy. Don't vote for the free marketeer – that'll teach those unprincipled Republicans.

[Rapunzel]

Are you a troll?

....coming onto a thread where a few of us are defending a choice between MORE Communist Socialist tyranny or a U-turn onto Free Markets and less regulation and personal freedom?

Get lost.

The Briefing Room is more than Pookey's Toons.   [/s]

Stop the troll crap, this isn't FR.  Rusty has as much right on this thread as anyone. 

To answer Rusty, if that's what it turns into I'm out of here.  I can't stand the fat bastard.

[rustynail]

Are you a troll?

....coming onto a thread where a few of us are defending a choice between MORE Communist Socialist tyranny or a U-turn onto Free Markets and less regulation and personal freedom?

Get lost.

The Briefing Room is more than Pookey's Toons.   [/s]

   I should have worded that better, sorry.
My Personal opinion is that  Christie is not  republican or conservative enough to suit me.

[rustynail]

  I can't stand the fat bastard.

That's two of us.

[Rapunzel]

That's two of us.

Exactly... and note at the top under the banner it's spelled out...we are a Conservative site.

[truth_seeker]

Exactly... and note at the top under the banner it's spelled out...we are a Conservative site.

That is precisely what Jim Robinson always says.

Yet I recall this site grew, in part, from people that could not discuss more moderate Republicans at FR, hence the original name "GOP Briefing Room."

Giuliani comes to mind, as one of the more moderate Republicans many people here wanted to discuss.

I will be very disappointed if this is site has been re-designated as a "conservative" only site.

How history does repeat itself.
 

[Rapunzel]

Wideawakes was formed to support Rudy.  This site was formed after Wideawakes and two or three other sites failed and we have been growing ever sense.