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I had stumbled across Morning Joe yesterday morning and they played the whole montage of every single time Obama said that phrase, almost verbatim, and it was at least a dozen times.

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I had stumbled across Morning Joe yesterday morning and they played the whole montage of every single time Obama said that phrase, almost verbatim, and it was at least a dozen times.

But it was more than him just 'saying' it, it was also all the embellishments he said along with it.
 
Using terms like...You can keep it, period. No one is going to take it away from you, no matter what. etc.
 
This is a classic picture of a lair, lying, to cover a lie. Nothing more than that.
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Mark Levin called Obama's "if it hasn't changed" exception, his lie about his lies.

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People, people.  If Ed Schultz sees this you will have him all in a lather.   He's already complaining about the media being too hard on Obamacare and here all of you are running down Obama just because he's a compulsive liar, who created a monster that most cannot afford, which has doctors leaving the profession, doctors who remain who won't accept the insurance, hospitals demanding deductibles up front, is making a part-time employment country, killing jobs, which has been sued so much it is hard to keep up with, which has navigators who are unvetted, computer programs which are a "hacker's wet-dream", and which doesn't work and all you can do is criticize our beloved president for it.  Have you no respect? 000hehehehe
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People, people.  If Ed Schultz sees this you will have him all in a lather.   He's already complaining about the media being too hard on Obamacare and here all of you are running down Obama just because he's a compulsive liar, who created a monster that most cannot afford, which has doctors leaving the profession, doctors who remain who won't accept the insurance, hospitals demanding deductibles up front, is making a part-time employment country, killing jobs, which has been sued so much it is hard to keep up with, which has navigators who are unvetted, computer programs which are a "hacker's wet-dream", and which doesn't work and all you can do is criticize our beloved president for it.  Have you no respect? 000hehehehe

Let them eat cake. I have said, most of us have said, where this was going for years and years. We all said that it would be a disaster, and the Libs called us 'racist' for saying so.
 
So now they, the Liberals, can eat it. They were taken in by a classic flim-flam man, and thinking they would get healthcare 'for free'. Although a few people may wind up with free services, this will be a miniscule percentage of the number of people who will suffer from this. It is a shame that so many good people will be hurt by this, but there was no way to stop the idiots, who are the majority, from pushing this insanity. So, here it is.
 
My take on Obama's big lie, is that he thought the insurance companies would cover the costs of the newer more expensive plans out of worship of him, or maybe he thought he could find a way to force them to cover more insurance for less money. After all, he is well known for being an idiot.
 
Whatever it was, Obama and his people remind me of the mechanic that promises the world. But after he takes your car apart and it is sitting there in pieces, he says, this is going to take a lot more money to fix than I thought. And you will pay it, or I will leave your car like this and get into my car and drive. Hey, it's not my car. My car works fine.
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Mark Levin called Obama's "if it hasn't changed" exception, his lie about his lies.

Jay Carney doubled down on this a couple of minutes ago said Obama didn't lie and blamed the insurance companies.

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Jay Carney doubled down on this a couple of minutes ago said Obama didn't lie and blamed the insurance companies.
That was always going to be the plan wasn't it? Blame the ins companys?


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Re: Obama denies he said 'you can keep your insurance' despite being videotaped
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2013, 01:39:45 PM »
That was always going to be the plan wasn't it? Blame the ins companys?

Of course. OWS mentality writ large. I have reservations of my own about insurance companies. Fair enough, we all do. They provide a reluctant service and do tend to charge well above the odds for what they provide.

Plus, you can't go blaming "the smartest man in the room."
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2013, 01:54:37 PM »
Of course. OWS mentality writ large. I have reservations of my own about insurance companies. Fair enough, we all do. They provide a reluctant service and do tend to charge well above the odds for what they provide.

Plus, you can't go blaming "the smartest man in the room."

No offense, EC, but the more you post the more I see how little you understand what made this country the great nation it has been for a long time and I see the effect living in an entitlement societyin your comments.

You complain the insurance company makes a profit but I don't hear about the huge tax burden you all carry for living in an entitlement society.  I stayed up until the wee hours watching your debates during the last election in the UK and I was stunned to hear people asking questions about whether Cameron would take away their "free" bus passes and their "free" this and "free" that...   fact is nothing is free and those insurance companies employ a LOT of people and pay them a good wage which gives our government a good return in the form of income taxes.  Our SS tax for SS and Medicare is a pittance compared to your version of the SS tax and your income tax on top of it - not to mention the huge tax you pay on fuel (and a lot of liberals think we should as well).  Until recently we have been a nation of people who work hard and don't ask or want handouts but more than willing to give a hand up.......   one reason so many of us are pissed off at both parties right now is they have found out that they can wield enourmous power by changing this and making us more like Europe and frankly - speaking for myself - I want to return to the way we were where people had too much pride to be takers.  People like Bill O'Reilly bitch about the profits our oil companies make and never stops to look at the low profit per gallon they make while the government and the states take two - three - sometimes four times a much in the form of taxes on the fuel.  I am a firm, died in the wool, free marketer.

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Re: Obama denies he said 'you can keep your insurance' despite being videotaped
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2013, 02:31:30 PM »
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Re: Obama denies he said 'you can keep your insurance' despite being videotaped
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2013, 02:48:45 PM »
I have never filed an auto claim for myself nor a homeowners claim.  Yes I carry coverage... i pay out of pocket ... for example waterline break on my fridge last month and damage the wall and baseboards I paid to fix it rather than file a claim.  I've handled a lot of medpayclaims working for a doctor and the only time we've not been paid promptly on medpay and workers comp is once the patient hires a lawyer.  In many cases the health insurance has paid and collected back on their end from the auto insurance as well as covering balance over the auto insurance when it runs out. 

Also in Arizona we are required to carry uninsured driver coverage so even if someone hits us without insurance we're covered.

Several years ago while we were on vacation a power failure flipped the BIG on our freezer and everything spoiled.  Until I read your post I never even considered we could have filed a claim...  there's many times we probably could have over the years..
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Re: Obama denies he said 'you can keep your insurance' despite being videotaped
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Re: Obama denies he said 'you can keep your insurance' despite being videotaped
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2013, 03:47:49 PM »
If I may return to the opening issue.

I don't recall if I cited this story before but even if I have I shall do so again because it's so applicable to Obama's ridiculous denials of having said what he obviously did say.

Many of you will recall when the Smothers Brothers had their own TV show. Before Tommy made it all preachy about LBJ and the War in Vietnam it had its moments. One skit I still recall is when resident comic Pat Paulsen was queried by Tommy as to whether he was planning on leaving the show in order to run for President. Paulsen denied he was even considering a run when Tommy showed an outtake from some other TV show where Paulsen declared his candidacy, no if, ands, or buts.

So Tommy demanded Paulsen explain himself as his declaration was right there on tape. Paulsen hemmed and hawed, shuffled his feet, and stated, "I was misquoted".

With every lie that SOB Barack is now spewing I remember that scene and only wonder why he doesn't make the same claim, "I was misquoted". You can be sure Carney and a host of Obama minions would be reporting that as true within minutes.

Just as a footnote, and to show how asinine government can get, Paulsen's comedic career went into hiatus at this time as the powers that be (the FEC I suppose) treated his tongue in cheek declaration as serious and warned CBS that if he appeared on the Smothers Brothers, or any other TV show, it would be required to provide equal time to any other declared candidate.
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Re: Obama denies he said 'you can keep your insurance' despite being videotaped
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2013, 05:26:40 PM »
Good memory, Cincinnatus. You brought back good memories for me. By the way, mom really did like Dick better. (Had to doublecheck to make sure I capitalized his name  :bolt:    )
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Re: Obama denies he said 'you can keep your insurance' despite being videotaped
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2013, 02:31:50 PM »
I remember when Mitt Romney's father was governor of Michigan and made a comment about Viet Nam that went over like a lead balloon.  In order to get himself out of the mess he said something that I think Obama can now use.  This was so bizarre that I committed it to memory:  "I didn't say I didn't say it, what I said was that I didn't say that I said it and I want to make that perfectly clear." :shrug:
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Re: Obama denies he said 'you can keep your insurance' despite being videotaped
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2013, 02:52:33 PM »
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