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North Korea developing 'electromagnetic pulse weapons'
« on: November 04, 2013, 04:14:53 PM »
 South Korea's spy agency said Monday that North Korea was using Russian technology to develop electromagnetic pulse weapons aimed at paralysing military electronic equipment south of the border.

The National Intelligence Service (NIS) said in a report to parliament that the North had purchased Russian electromagnetic pulse (EMP) weaponry to develop its own versions.

EMP weapons are used to damage to electronic equipment. At higher energy levels, an EMP event can cause more widespread damage including to aircraft structures and other objects.

The spy agency also said the North's leader Kim Jong-Un sees cyberattacks as an all-purpose weapon along with nuclear weapons and missiles, according to lawmakers briefed by the NIS.

The North is trying to hack into smartphones and lure South Koreans into becoming informants, it said.

It has collected information on where South Korea stores chemical substances and oil reserves as well as details about subways, tunnels and train networks in major cities, it said.

The spy agency also said North Korean spies were operating in China and Japan to distribute pro-Pyongyang propaganda.

North Korea is believed to run an elite cyber warfare unit of 3,000 personnel.

A South Korean lawmaker, citing government data, said last month that the North had staged thousands of cyberattacks against the South in recent years, causing financial losses of around $805 million.

In addition to military institutions, the North's recent high-profile cyberattacks have targeted commercial banks, government agencies, TV broadcasters and media websites.

North Korea has denied any involvement in cyberattacks and accused Seoul of fabricating them to fan cross-border tension.

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Re: North Korea developing 'electromagnetic pulse weapons'
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2013, 08:14:45 PM »
We shall see.

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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2013, 08:18:08 PM »
Geez, not this again.

This same crap has been around for the last 10+ years.  First it was North Korea, then Iran, and now back to North Korea.

They're always written by people who don't have a clue about how nuclear weapons work and what it would take to generate an EMP which could actually cripple the United States.
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2013, 08:25:11 PM »
Sounds like great agitprop to me.

A good EMP weapon is not difficult to build.  Most nuclear devices produce an electromagnetic pulse.  The problem is putting the weapon in a position where the pulse can do maximum damage over the target, from what I have read on the subject, that means detonating the device between 200 and 300 miles in altitude.  At that height the EMP produces what is known as the "Compton Effect" where gamma radiation interacts with air molecules to essentially redirect the pulse and fire it straight down.

The Norks have not yet demonstrated the ability to do anything like that.  Hell, I'm going to work on building a nuclear fission reactor in my garage...and I have just as much ability to do it as the Norks do.


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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2013, 08:30:13 PM »
Sounds like great agitprop to me.

A good EMP weapon is not difficult to build.  Most nuclear devices produce an electromagnetic pulse.  The problem is putting the weapon in a position where the pulse can do maximum damage over the target, from what I have read on the subject, that means detonating the device between 200 and 300 miles in altitude.  At that height the EMP produces what is known as the "Compton Effect" where gamma radiation interacts with air molecules to essentially redirect the pulse and fire it straight down.

The Norks have not yet demonstrated the ability to do anything like that.  Hell, I'm going to work on building a nuclear fission reactor in my garage...and I have just as much ability to do it as the Norks do.



EMPs can be produced using non-nuclear means as well.  They're just not the WMD the Norks apparently want to pretend they are.

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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2013, 08:33:18 PM »
EMPs can be produced using non-nuclear means as well.  They're just not the WMD the Norks apparently want to pretend they are.

Yes they can.  You still need to get the thing high enough in the air to do anything with it, and the Norks still don't have anywhere near a reliable launch vehicle.


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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2013, 08:37:01 PM »
The only thing capable of generating a large EMP, that is deliverable via strategic missile, is a high yield nuke.

Only the US, Russia, China, the UK, France, and Israel have this ability and no one is sure how large Israel's biggest bomb actually is.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2013, 08:47:58 PM »
Yes they can.  You still need to get the thing high enough in the air to do anything with it, and the Norks still don't have anywhere near a reliable launch vehicle.



The only thing capable of generating a large EMP, that is deliverable via strategic missile, is a high yield nuke.

Only the US, Russia, China, the UK, France, and Israel have this ability and no one is sure how large Israel's biggest bomb actually is.


Yup, and yup.  As I said, they're not the WMDs the Norks would like to pretend they are.

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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2013, 08:50:51 PM »
The only thing capable of generating a large EMP, that is deliverable via strategic missile, is a high yield nuke.

Only the US, Russia, China, the UK, France, and Israel have this ability and no one is sure how large Israel's biggest bomb actually is.




'How-to' for EMP weapon stunningly accessible

This s is the second of a two-part series, and describes how easy it would be to create a portable EMP weapon. The first story described the ability of a lone-wolf terrorist to inflict major, anonymous damage on the United States.

WASHINGTON – The ability of a lone-wolf terrorist to make an electromagnetic pulse, or EMP, weapon is made easy by the ready access such an individual has to websites and other open source information on how to construct such a device.
In the hands of a determined individual, a weapon like this could have serious consequences on the nation’s critical infrastructures that rely on electricity and their electronic components in order to function, experts say.

Estimates are that tens of millions of fatalities could occur in the aftermath of a major EMP calamity as food, fuel and power supplies evaporate and the nation is transported instantly back to the 18th century lifestyle without a power grid or anything else electronic.

As the first installment described, while many have focused on the possibility of an EMP disaster developing because of a nuclear explosion or an intense solar storm, there is another great danger: The lone-wolf terrorist.

The attack could come from someone someone who strikes out on his or her own without any group affiliation. Such individuals either may see themselves as supporting the views of various terrorist groups or may have a personal grudge.

Such an individual with a penchant for electronics can pull together components from a Radio Shack or electronic store – even order the components off of selected internet websites – and fashion a radio frequency, or RF, weapon.

As microprocessors become smaller but more sophisticated, they are even more susceptible to an RF pulse. The high power microwave from an RF weapon produces a short, very high power pulse, said to be billions of watts in a nanosecond, or billionths of a second.

This so-called burst of electromagnetic waves in the gigahertz microwave frequency band can melt electrical circuitry and damage integrated circuits causing them to fail. Ironically, this type RF weapon won’t affect humans, although there are some forms that experts say can affect the body’s own electrical system.

The pulse from an RF weapon travels at the speed of light and can be fired without any visible emanation. These weapons can come in ultra-wideband or narrow-band, with the latter acting like a laser emitting a single frequency at very high power. This pulse then is directed at a specific electronic target.

What makes RF weapons so dangerous is their compactness and ability to be powered by hand-carried energy sources. Experts say that their range of intensity is from 200 meters to 1,000 meters, or from some 656 feet to 3,281 feet.

Experts also say the most frightening circumstance is how available the information is on how to make an EMP device – in this case, a radio-frequency, or RF, weapon.

For example, an obscure, 41-page paper published by Lt. Col. John A. Brunderman, U.S.A.F., outlined how high power radio frequency in what he termed a directed energy role has “huge potential” for both offensive and defensive military use.

His paper, “High Power Radio Frequency Weapons: A Potential Counter to U.S. Stealth and Cruise Missile Technology,” was written while he attended the Center for Strategy and Technology at the Air War College at Maxwell Air Force Base in Montgomery, Ala.

That paper, readily available on the Internet, sufficiently details what sources say give insight on how radio frequency, or RF, weapons, can be used in downing stealth aircraft, including unmanned drones.

Sources say that where it lacks in detail, it is sufficiently able to point a knowledgeable engineer in a direction on how to proceed in developing systems to counter U.S. stealth technology.

The open source paper pointed out that if an enemy is able to exploit such technologies, then U.S. tactics and strategy inevitably will have to change, assuming the technologies were used in an integrated air defense role to counter U.S. high technology, deep-strike capabilities.

Ready access to such information could be dangerous in the hands of a lone wolf, or person not affiliated with a group, determined to attack society’s vital infrastructure which is largely dependent on the national electrical grid and electronic components to function.

As electronics become more densely packed, more energy efficient and operate at higher speeds, Brunderman pointed out that they become even more susceptible to high power RF microwave radiation.

Here’s the documentation of the danger: “A Nation Forsaken – EMP: The Escalating Threat of an American Catastrophe.”

While Brunderman’s paper is a readily available open source guideline on how to defeat U.S. stealth aircraft and drones, similar information from the Internet offers a “how-to” to construct a simple but effective electromagnetic pulse weapon using off-the-shelf components from retail electronic stores.

On the website BlockYourId, for example, there is a step-by-step approach to constructing a simple EMP generator.

While the one pictured won’t destroy “every computer in the neighborhood,” it does give a detailed technical overview of the steps needed to make up electromagnetic pulse warfare, including the off-the-shelf components that go into making an RF generator.

It points out that the most critical component will be a high-voltage pulse capacitor.

For “really significant results,” it will need a pulse capacitor output in the hundreds of Joules. It also offers suggestions on boosting the electromagnetic pulse. While some of the components may be a bit pricey, cost will be no object to those individuals or groups determined to make such a generator.

If a lone wolf or terrorist group wants to build an RF weapon, all the person would have to do is go to Information Unlimited at the website amazing1.com.

It is a virtual catalog of electromagnetic pulse devices offered in a variety of ranges, most capable of doing either severe damage or frying electronics at considerable distances.

The prospect also is there to upgrade the offered technology to increase the power and distance of the RF device, elements which are important to determine effectiveness.
 For example, the website catalog offers a variety of “EMP/HERF/SHOCK Pulse Generators,” with the caveat that it is a “Dangerous electrical device, may damage sensitive electronic systems, computers, etc.”

“Shock wave generators are capable of producing focused acoustic or electromagnetic energy that can break up objects such as kidney stones and other similar materials. EMP generators can produce pulses of electromagnetic energy that can destroy the sensitive electronics in computers and microprocessors. Destabilized LCR circuits can produce multi megawatt pulses by using an explosive wire disruptive switch. These high power pulses can be coupled ‘with difficulty’ into antennas, conic sections, horns etc. for very directional effects. Research is currently being undertaken to disable vehicles thus avoiding dangerous high speed chases. The trick is to generate a high enough power pulse to fry the electronic control processor modules without creating collateral damage to unintended targets. This could be a lot simpler if the vehicle was covered in plastic or fiber glass rather than metal. The shielding of the metal body offers a challenge to the researcher to develop a practical system. A system could be built that could do this but would be costly, large and produce collateral damage to friendly targets.

“Devices described are intended for experienced researchers and qualified personnel who are aware of all hazards and liabilities in use of this equipment.”

This explanation implied guidance to a potential user on how to boost existing systems to provide greater damage to an intended target.

The catalog then goes into the specific generators, some of which come with the caveat that “This is an advanced and highly dangerous project!”

One in particular is the “Complete EMP Systems Crated with All Setup Instructions,” with the caveat that it will be “Sold only to qualified research companies and personnel” – a condition which easily could be manipulated by providing false representation to mask true intent.

While the EMP150 has an output of 300 Megawats and weighs 90 kilograms, or 198 lbs., selling for $8,000; the EMP400 has a 1.8 Gigawatt output and weighs 170 kg, or 374 lbs. selling for $14,000.

For $32,000, a would-be lone wolf or terrorist group can get the “Electromagnetic EMP Blaster Gun, Gen II,” capable of “shutting down a computer at a distance of 15 meters,” or almost 50 feet, and can “ignite highly explosive fuels in case of proximity or contact.”

The website also offers Marx Impulse generators which it describes as “Professional Equipment for Serious Research.”

The website describes its Marx Impulse generator as simulating a lightning strike, with a “current rise” faster than a natural lightning bolt.

With some technical savvy, a person may be able to take these basic elements and boost them to even greater levels of lethality either aimed at electronic systems or to provide greater coverage to maximize electronic destruction.

These and a myriad of other high voltage products, lasers, capacitors/rectifiers/diodes can be ordered from the website just like you’d order clothing from a catalog. There is one disclaimer that puts the burden of responsibility on the buyer, not the seller. It refers to the:

“Legal Status of these Products: It is the responsibility of the buyer, not the seller, to ascertain and obey all applicable local, state, federal, and international laws in the regard to the possession, use and sale of any item purchased from Information Unlimited, Inc. Absolutely no sales to minors. By placing an order, the buyer represents that the products ordered will be used only in a lawful manner and that he/she is of legal age. Information Unlimited, Inc. will not be held liable for the misuse of any product purchased from us or any of our direct distributors or dealers. Also, whereas no product is 100% effective against attack, Information United Inc. assumes no responsibility if a personal safety product purchased from us is not effective in preventing bodily injury or death.

“Some of the items we carry are ‘DANGEROUS’ and may be ‘ILLEGAL’ in your state or country. Please be sure to check local laws ‘BEFORE’ ordering.”

The company does offer a hazardous equipment affidavit for various items, compelling the purchaser to sign and acknowledging that the person understands the hazards involved.

It adds that, “Hazardous devices are only made available to qualified and established companies in these related fields,” but it doesn’t explain what constitutes a “qualified” company.

And that’s it.

There was no response to WND attempts to contact Information Unlimited through its www.amazing1.com website for a further explanation on how it goes about determining a company is “qualified” to obtain the equipment.

Some mail order catalogs that sell ammunition, for example, require the would-be buyer at least to submit a photocopy of a driver’s license or state-authorized identification card to determine some modicum of bona fides to determine age and list the person’s address. Such an approach also includes a photograph of the purchaser.

If the FBI then would launch an investigation following an electromagnetic attack on a facility, aircraft or any number of other targets that would result in widespread damage, then such information would offer a potential lead.

However, www.amazing1.com located in the “Live Free or Die”state of New Hampshire doesn’t have such a requirement.

For the individual who wants to increase the capability of an existing system or build one from scratch, open-source websites offer insight into how to make an RF weapon and make available all of the necessary components.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/how-to-for-emp-weapon-stunningly-accessible/#3rzaBTGSFcSocaCh.99
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2013, 09:17:13 PM »
EMPs can be produced using non-nuclear means as well. 


'How-to' for EMP weapon stunningly accessible


Here are the instructions on How to Build a EMP Gun

http://www.amazing1.com/products/electromagnetic-emp-pulse-gun-gen-ii-downloadable-instructions.html
http://www.amazing1.com/products/electromagnetic-emp-pulse-gun-gen-ii-paper-instructions.html

Just to download the entire blueprints cost about $20 dollars. Fully assembled about $34,000. I just cannot believe that this stuff is on the Internet
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2013, 09:22:22 PM »
All credibility goes out when World Nut Daily is cited.

They've been predicted we'd be nuked every year since 2002 and it hasn't happened yet.
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2013, 09:23:17 PM »
All credibility goes out when World Nut Daily is cited.

They've been predicted we'd be nuked every year since 2002 and it hasn't happened yet.

That is why I attached the products to the story the to prove the  World Net Daily story is factual.The attachments prove that it can be built by anyone with technical abilitaies and there are companies sell those bueprints. They even sell the complete EMP Gun Weapon for $34,000 assembled. Its just a matter of time a rogue nation or a terrorist group uses one of these weapons.
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Re: North Korea developing 'electromagnetic pulse weapons'
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2013, 09:32:00 PM »
That is why I attached the products to the story the  World Net Daily story is a factual.The attachments prove that it can be built buy anyone and there are companies sell those bueprints. They even sell the complete EMP Gun Weapon for $34,000 assembled.

Until I see it in action, I am going to have to take it with a grain of salt. The amount of power needed seems far larger than those blueprints seem to indicate. Browsing that site, they seem to deal with the kind of plans you would find for sale in the back of comic books. X-Ray glasses, anti-gravity devices, etc.

The thing is, NK wants us to believe they are capable of making such a device so I wouldn't be surprised if they float a story.  WND is bad about picking up any rumor without fact-checking, they just run with whatever. Their successful hit count is rather low. Like most internet sources, don't take anything at face value.
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2013, 09:34:16 PM »
Until I see it in action, I am going to have to take it with a grain of salt. The amount of power needed seems far larger than those blueprints seem to indicate. Browsing that site, they seem to deal with the kind of plans you would find for sale in the back of comic books. X-Ray glasses, anti-gravity devices, etc.

The thing is, NK wants us to believe they are capable of making such a device so I wouldn't be surprised if they float a story.  WND is bad about picking up any rumor without fact-checking, they just run with whatever. Their successful hit count is rather low. Like most internet sources, don't take anything at face value.


Well, I believe it.  The company who is selling the$34,000 assembled product would  be selling the product if the product was field tested . I think it passed the field testing stage.  The company selling the product(information Unlimited) was founded in 1974 by Robert Iannini, whose work has paved the way in making high voltage accessible to everyone, our highly creative company holds many patents which have contributed to the electronics and high voltage fields, from bug zappers to stun guns, plasma drivers to power supplies, and many other HV devices.So it seems that they are well established.  So its not a fly by night company that spouted in the last couple years. According to Wired Magazine, Robert Iannini has been called the man behind the worlds most dangerous mail order kits.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/01/information_unlimited/
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2013, 11:19:49 PM »
Just to toss some fuel on the fire, the paper by Lt. Col. Brunderman can be downloaded from the defense community website here: http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=ADA393362

I'm of two minds on matters such as this - granting for the sake of discussion here that a suitable EMP device could actually be built along these lines - the information provides us with a two-edged sword:  yes, terrorists could use, or attempt to use, these sorts of weapons, but these sorts of weapons might also be incredibly valuable to a band of freedom fighters rebelling against an oppressive, technologically unmatched, government that is determined to squash them like bugs.

As but one example:  drones aren't just for foreign wars any more.  they will be making an appearance in domestic surveillance/spying and so-called "law enforcement," and democrat-run governments will inevitably turn them against their political opponents.  if/when a future democrat-party government starts using drones to track politically active conservatives, for example, a small, useable, emp may become a necessary tool of self-defense.

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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2013, 12:24:06 AM »
Just to toss some fuel on the fire, the paper by Lt. Col. Brunderman can be downloaded from the defense community website here: http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=ADA393362

I'm of two minds on matters such as this - granting for the sake of discussion here that a suitable EMP device could actually be built along these lines - the information provides us with a two-edged sword:  yes, terrorists could use, or attempt to use, these sorts of weapons, but these sorts of weapons might also be incredibly valuable to a band of freedom fighters rebelling against an oppressive, technologically unmatched, government that is determined to squash them like bugs.

As but one example:  drones aren't just for foreign wars any more.  they will be making an appearance in domestic surveillance/spying and so-called "law enforcement," and democrat-run governments will inevitably turn them against their political opponents.  if/when a future democrat-party government starts using drones to track politically active conservatives, for example, a small, useable, emp may become a necessary tool of self-defense.



Thanks for mentioning that article. The days of detonating an A-Bomb in the atmosphere to produce an EMP effect to disrupt communications on a massive scale is over except when a country attacking another country. The technology to produce the same effect but on a smaller and focused area is reality. This is a massive problem because terrorist groups could cause massive damage with a mobile "EMP Gun". They can go from regional electrical grid to regional electrical grid and no one will know. Just imagine the panic if one of these things are used. You are also right that in could be a tool we can use.You can probably build one from parts at your local Radio Shack.

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