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Offline happyg

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« on: November 02, 2013, 10:09:49 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2013, 10:35:37 AM »
True story. I went to the physical IRS office to resolve an issue with my return from last year. Initially she was normal. Her computer was facing her, so I could not see what she was doing.
 
She put my information in and her attitude changed instantly. She kept looking at the screen, looking at me, looking at the screen.
 
Eventually she said, 'I cannot help you.' I said, what? All I want is a transcript of my return for last year as it is in the IRS database. I just want to see what you guys are seeing. She said, 'No'. I will not give it to you. It was a very strange experience.
 
The meeting ended with me saying, 'So you will not help me?' She said, in no uncertian terms, No, I will not help you. She was not trying to evade or be nice, she was saying flat out "No".
 
Apparently I am flagged with the Ghestapo IRS as an 'unbeliever'. Could be that I am a Vet, or that I was an active member in a Tea Party group.
 
What ever it is, she made it clear that the IRS is not my friend. I would love to be able to see what  she was looking at in my file. I wonder if my name comes up RED in the Obamanation government databases. I wouldn't be surprised if it did.
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2013, 10:57:17 AM »
Looking back, I'm beginning to think the same thing. My husband owned a bar that I sold. I put the liquor license in "safe keeping" with the state. That is done in Ohio to protect the owner. All papers were signed, and all the owner had to do was wait for the license.

In the meantime, he opened the bar without the license, and was raided, and a lot of illegal activity was going on. The doors were locked, so the agents had a hard time getting in.

I got orders from the State Liquor Board to appear in court. I called them, and explained the situation to no avail. They even got rude. So, I kept calling other departments, and got the same thing, that I was responsible. Finally, after hours and days of calling, I got a guy who understood, and was sympathetic. He told me to trust him, that he would personally fix the problem, and would get back with me. Of course, I didn't believe him, but played along.

A few days later, I got a letter from  Attorney General Mike DeWine, saying the case was closed, along with apologies. I then got other documents from the guy who helped me, along with a phone call. He knew I had a sick husband, and was on the up-and-up, and he blamed over-zealous IRS employees. Now, I see why.

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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2013, 11:15:15 AM »
Don't blame you in the slightest for being dubious - but sometimes you do find an actual human being working in government. So glad you did, especially at such a bad time!

I invariably start any phone conversation with government departments (Infernal Revenue, usually, though Customs and Excise are a close second) with a cheerful "hello," followed by "This call is being recorded." You'd be totally amazed how the attitude changes with those 5 simple words.
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2013, 11:15:40 AM »
And the IRS is now running medical care. Imagine if I get hurt, and an IRS agent say, "No, I will not help you." You are not 'one of us'.
 
The way I look at government health care is that I am, on my own. I will either treat myself, pay an underground private doctor, or die. I have no faith and zero confidence that the IRS is going to take care of my medical needs. It is too stupid to even think about. I will never voluntarily sign up to be a serf of the government.
 
America is now like it was during the Wild, Wild, West. Everybody is on their own. Even worse, you have to fight the government just to left the f*** alone.
 
What if I don't want 'healthcare' of any kind? What then? Will they throw me in prison for not allowing 'them' to take care of me? I think the answer is, 'yes'. They will.
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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2013, 01:05:14 PM »
Don't blame you in the slightest for being dubious - but sometimes you do find an actual human being working in government. So glad you did, especially at such a bad time!

I invariably start any phone conversation with government departments (Infernal Revenue, usually, though Customs and Excise are a close second) with a cheerful "hello," followed by "This call is being recorded." You'd be totally amazed how the attitude changes with those 5 simple words.

I feel the same way.  In order for our doctor to get a procedure approval from the government, we'll have to be meet a certain criteria concerning our voter registration, religion, etc..
Might sound far-fetched but it will happen.
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2013, 02:29:59 PM »
And the IRS is now running medical care. Imagine if I get hurt, and an IRS agent say, "No, I will not help you." You are not 'one of us'.
 
The way I look at government health care is that I am, on my own. I will either treat myself, pay an underground private doctor, or die. I have no faith and zero confidence that the IRS is going to take care of my medical needs. It is too stupid to even think about. I will never voluntarily sign up to be a serf of the government.
 
America is now like it was during the Wild, Wild, West. Everybody is on their own. Even worse, you have to fight the government just to left the f*** alone.
 
What if I don't want 'healthcare' of any kind? What then? Will they throw me in prison for not allowing 'them' to take care of me? I think the answer is, 'yes'. They will.

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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2013, 02:31:53 PM »
I bet they would've put a PMSNBC "correspondant" right through. Comrades, ya know.


True story. I went to the physical IRS office to resolve an issue with my return from last year. Initially she was normal. Her computer was facing her, so I could not see what she was doing.
 
She put my information in and her attitude changed instantly. She kept looking at the screen, looking at me, looking at the screen.
 
Eventually she said, 'I cannot help you.' I said, what? All I want is a transcript of my return for last year as it is in the IRS database. I just want to see what you guys are seeing. She said, 'No'. I will not give it to you. It was a very strange experience.
 
The meeting ended with me saying, 'So you will not help me?' She said, in no uncertian terms, No, I will not help you. She was not trying to evade or be nice, she was saying flat out "No".
 
Apparently I am flagged with the Ghestapo IRS as an 'unbeliever'. Could be that I am a Vet, or that I was an active member in a Tea Party group.
 
What ever it is, she made it clear that the IRS is not my friend. I would love to be able to see what  she was looking at in my file. I wonder if my name comes up RED in the Obamanation government databases. I wouldn't be surprised if it did.

OMG, you're serious here. What a bunch of Third World thugs we are dealing with when it comes to this administration.

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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2013, 03:08:15 PM »
Yep, I do believe this is in the cards and will become policy at some future date:

I feel the same way.  In order for our doctor to get a procedure approval from the government, we'll have to be meet a certain criteria concerning our voter registration, religion, etc..
Might sound far-fetched but it will happen.
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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2013, 03:12:04 PM »
I bet they would've put a PMSNBC "correspondant" right through. Comrades, ya know.


OMG, you're serious here. What a bunch of Third World thugs we are dealing with when it comes to this administration.

That actually happened. 100% true. After she called up my info on her computer, she got a strange look on her face, like concern or even fear. I have no criminal record and have never done anything to warrant this reaction. And she did shut down. Meeting over. You have to leave.
 
All I was asking for was for information the government has about me, myself. And she would not give it to me. No, I will not let you see it. The answer was, more or less, you do not have a right to see your information as it exists with the IRS. I was stunned. Couldn't believe it. It was eerie.
 
Who knows what they say about me in that file? Looks like I'll never know, unless I file an FOIA on them, which I may actually do.
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2013, 03:15:52 PM »
Looks like I'll never know, unless I file an FOIA on them, which I may actually do.

Yes, but what does it say about this "Land of the Free" that you will have to go to that extreme to get your own information out of a government agency which "serves" us?
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2013, 03:25:00 PM »
yah...I caught this yesterday on SR.  Isn't it interesting that they cannot cough up website stats but they can identify members of the media??

Orwell would have approved....



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