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Offline Rapunzel

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« on: November 01, 2013, 02:45:23 AM »

Offline rangerrebew

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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2013, 07:38:40 AM »
Don't forget, many doctors and hospitals that do accept Obamacare are going to ask for the deductible up front. :thud:  The Cloward/Piven, communist plan is working beautifully. :2gunz:
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2013, 09:46:41 AM »
This is absolutely true.

People won't have a choice if they want to be covered come January 1.

They'll have to go to an approved hospital, and their favorite smaller hospital is most likely not going to be on the list.

If you think people are mad now..................   **nononono*
Character still matters.  It always matters.

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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2013, 10:00:19 AM »
This is absolutely true.

People won't have a choice if they want to be covered come January 1.

They'll have to go to an approved hospital, and their favorite smaller hospital is most likely not going to be on the list.

If you think people are mad now..................   **nononono*

That's okay.  The payers will continue docile as lambs.
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2013, 10:04:49 AM »
Don't forget, many doctors and hospitals that do accept Obamacare are going to ask for the deductible up front. :thud:  The Cloward/Piven, communist plan is working beautifully. :2gunz:

Quote of the day.  The goal of Obamacare is to collapse the entire health insurance industry by making conditions for them to operate so impossible they do exactly what they are doing now: cancel policies by the millions.  When things become so bad in the public, they will demand that the Government act to "do something" to fix the massive problems, and the answer will be Federal "Single payer" health "coverage" that really would bankrupt the country.

But today we have an even bigger fly in the ointment, and that is the 93 million employer plan people who will start getting cancellation notices this time next year in advance of the expiration of the employer mandate, all of it right before the midterm elections.

So look for a growing movement among Democrats to delay the entire implementation of Obamacare for a year, until Spring of 2015 after the mid-terms.  Some Democrats can clearly see the end of the runway approaching very rapidly, and with well over 2 million policy cancellations already, along with ever increasing coverage of how Obama outright lied during both of his elections campaigns, Democrats are beginning to run for cover in the Senate and increasingly in the House.  At this point the very worst thing the Republicans can do is agree to any more delays in implementing, and continue to highlight the ways the Democrats have insisted this be done all along and stick with it.

But even if the Democrats turn on Obama his ego will never allow him to back down and admit defeat on what was his personal signature issue for the last five years.  He will never admit defeat and he will retain a loyal core of apologists and progressives who will continue to try and impose all of this no matter what.  I think it is going to take what Obamacare promises to deliver en masse to the American people before many of them will finally wake the hell up and see what has happened.  The problem is that if it takes bringing down the Republic to wake people up then they probably don't deserve the Republic in the first place.

None of this will end well.

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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2013, 04:09:46 PM »
There is a woman on Cavuto right now -- she is pissed!  She had a Blue Cross 80/20 plan and a $1700 deductible which cost her $200 + a month... this is the plan Obama says isn't any good and she has been "migrated" without her permission to a plan with $737 monthly payment and $3500 deductible....... she is very , very angry!

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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2013, 05:33:18 PM »
There is a woman on Cavuto right now -- she is pissed!  She had a Blue Cross 80/20 plan and a $1700 deductible which cost her $200 + a month... this is the plan Obama says isn't any good and she has been "migrated" without her permission to a plan with $737 monthly payment and $3500 deductible....... she is very , very angry!

Lenin: Put the middle class between the grinding wheels of inflation and taxation. :chairbang:
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
George Washington

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
Benjamin Franklin


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