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Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« on: October 26, 2013, 09:45:15 PM »

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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2013, 09:46:54 PM »
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Wow...  what a start to the article.

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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2013, 09:58:39 PM »

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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2013, 10:08:39 PM »
Conservative purist

Wow...  what a start to the article.

It appears that the author is just a TAD bit biased!

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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2013, 10:09:52 PM »
Cruz is never at a loss for words because he knows and believes in what he says. I liked this quote:

He is correct.   It was Wilkow who explained how the "consultants" (like Rove) really do not care if the person they are pushing is going to be good at doing their job for the people they want to elect them, all they care about is how deep are the candidates pockets.  Think Rove supporting Mike Castle in DE... deep pockets... as a result these consultants are not in it for an idiology, they are only in it for the glory and the money.  (Another reason to get The Blaze - Wilkow is so intelligent and such a breath of fresh air to hear his interviews).

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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2013, 10:10:23 PM »
It appears that the author is just a TAD bit biased!

~LOL~ and not even attempting to hide her bias.

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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2013, 10:38:33 PM »
Who here actually believes that Ted Cruz, with approval ratings in the low 20s, could possibly win a national election? 

Ronald Reagan won Democrats and Independents, neither of which want anything to do with Cruz.

Ted Cruz makes the far right feel good and they extrapolate their ecstasy onto the rest of the population.

Cruz's shutdown of the government drove a stake through the heart of any national candidacy.  He's as divisive as Barack Obama.
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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2013, 10:45:55 PM »
Conservatives make up 40% of the voting population. Liberals make up 20%.  Pit a conservative against a flaming liberal (Hillary) and the conservative voters will turn out in droves.

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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2013, 10:51:55 PM »
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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2013, 11:06:29 PM »
Conservatives make up 40% of the voting population. Liberals make up 20%.  Pit a conservative against a flaming liberal (Hillary) and the conservative voters will turn out in droves.

You assume that all conservatives will unite behind Ted Cruz.

I won't.  I'd support a more level-headed conservative like Rand Paul before Cruz.  I notice Paul is within the margin of error, basically tied with Cruz in the PPP poll. 

The all-important Independents are NOT Cruz supporters.  And, unless Cruz gets some Democrats, he simply cannot win.
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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2013, 11:08:37 PM »
You assume that all conservatives will unite behind Ted Cruz.

I won't.  I'd support a more level-headed conservative like Rand Paul before Cruz.  I notice Paul is within the margin of error, basically tied with Cruz in the PPP poll. 

The all-important Independents are NOT Cruz supporters.  And, unless Cruz gets some Democrats, he simply cannot win.

You are not a conservative so of course you will vote for the establishment politician in any race, which is your perogative... just as it is mine to vote or the Constitutional/fiscal conservative.

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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2013, 11:09:15 PM »
You assume that all conservatives will unite behind Ted Cruz.

I won't.  I'd support a more level-headed conservative like Rand Paul before Cruz.  I notice Paul is within the margin of error, basically tied with Cruz in the PPP poll. 

The all-important Independents are NOT Cruz supporters.  And, unless Cruz gets some Democrats, he simply cannot win.

That's because you're not a conservative, of any stripe.

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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2013, 11:09:51 PM »
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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2013, 11:11:51 PM »
and Rand Paul is a 'Libertarian-leaning conservative."  I also recall you absolutely pilloried him when he was running for the senate and did not think he stood a change of winning the election after he had won the primary.  I could be wrong but I "suspect" your current new-found support for him is because he endorsed your guy in KY - Mitch McConnell.

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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2013, 11:12:10 PM »
You are not a conservative so of course you will vote for the establishment politician in any race, which is your perogative... just as it is mine to vote or the Constitutional/fiscal conservative.

I am a conservative.  You are a far right tea partier.  There's a difference.

Rand Paul is establishment now?  LOL!!!

You've gone round the bend Rap.
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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2013, 11:14:07 PM »
That's because you're not a conservative, of any stripe.

And you, my friend, don't know jack.

You, like Rap, think the tea party is mainstream conservatism.  It's not.  Anyone who would shutdown the government over a fool's errand like defunding Obamacare is a taco short of a combination plate.
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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2013, 11:14:42 PM »
I am a conservative.  You are a far right tea partier.  There's a difference.

Rand Paul is establishment now?  LOL!!!

You've gone round the bend Rap.

I'm being exceedingly polite to you so don't start with the ad hominems on this thread.  And yes, I do support the Tea Party. So does Mystery and R4 the owners of this site as well as at least half or more the members here. 

As for who I will or will not support in 2016 ask me in 3 years... I'm not weighing in on any one candidate right now, but I like both Cruz and Paul...

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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2013, 11:15:54 PM »

 

  Anyone who would shutdown the government over a fool's errand like defunding Obamacare is a taco short of a combination plate.

and that comment is what makes me think there is more to your dislike of Cruz than you are willing to admit - maybe even to yourself.

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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2013, 11:16:48 PM »
and Rand Paul is a 'Libertarian-leaning conservative."  I also recall you absolutely pilloried him when he was running for the senate and did not think he stood a change of winning the election after he had won the primary.  I could be wrong but I "suspect" your current new-found support for him is because he endorsed your guy in KY - Mitch McConnell.

Yes I did pillory Rand Paul. But he's the sane conservative in a room full of nutburgers iike Cruz and Mike Lee.

Elections are not won on ideology. They're also won on style, and Rand Paul was careful not to be a front-man for defunding Obamacare. 

That's the difference between a careful politician and a zealot.
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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2013, 11:20:47 PM »
I'm being exceedingly polite to you so don't start with the ad hominems on this thread.  And yes, I do support the Tea Party. So does Mystery and R4 the owners of this site as well as at least half or more the members here. 

As for who I will or will not support in 2016 ask me in 3 years... I'm not weighing in on any one candidate right now, but I like both Cruz and Paul...

Do not threaten me with your army of owners and moderators.  I really don't care who supports who here.   It remains to be seen if the tea party will be a significant force in 2014, especially since a large contingent of business interests--with deep pockets--want nothing to do with Ted Cruz.

Unless Cruz figures out how to bridge the gap so that he can unite conservatives and Republicans, he's road kill in 2016.
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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2013, 11:21:30 PM »
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I'm being exceedingly polite to you so don't start with the ad hominems on this thread.  And yes, I do support the Tea Party. So does Mystery and R4 the owners of this site as well as at least half or more the members here. 

As for who I will or will not support in 2016 ask me in 3 years... I'm not weighing in on any one candidate right now, but I like both Cruz and Paul...

I agree with all you posted. I don't consider the Tea Party far right, but fiscally responsible. Anyone less than that is a moderate.

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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2013, 11:22:16 PM »
and that comment is what makes me think there is more to your dislike of Cruz than you are willing to admit - maybe even to yourself.

It's an expression.  OK, if you think I meant something racial, he's several floors short of an elevator ride to the top.

How's that?
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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2013, 11:24:16 PM »
It's an expression.  OK, if you think I meant something racial, he's several floors short of an elevator ride to the top.

How's that?

Considering that he is an exceedingly accomplished and brilliant man the comment is without merit.

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Re: Iowa audience embraces Sen. Ted Cruz
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2013, 11:25:53 PM »
And you, my friend, don't know jack.

You, like Rap, think the tea party is mainstream conservatism.  It's not.  Anyone who would shutdown the government over a fool's errand like defunding Obamacare is a taco short of a combination plate.

/snicker

Actually, I don't.  But you wouldn't know that because you don't pay attention to what people post; you simply set up strawmen with their avatars taped on and tilt after those instead.

Since I like hitting my head against proverbial brick walls, I'll say it for the hundredth time:  if you stopped paying attention to your own preconceptions and started paying attention to reality, you'd be a lot wiser.


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