Author Topic: Warning: Enrolling in Obamacare allows government to link your IP address with your name, social security number, bank accounts and web surfing habits  (Read 1555 times)

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People. Use a proxy. Better still use an anoymizer.
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Offline olde north church

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ummm, does this happen just by clicking the link?  I accidentally clicked it when reading a news article.
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If NSA did not have all this already I'd be very surprised.
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Thus, by enrolling in Obamacare, you are voluntarily surveilling yourself and handing over the data to the government while also AGREEING to terms of self-incrimination.

Ponder the implications of this for a moment...
You've lost the right to object to anything police and prosecutors may do on the basis of the Fourth or Fifth Amendment?
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You've lost the right to object to anything police and prosecutors may do on the basis of the Fourth or Fifth Amendment?


That's a possible implication.  I doubt if the Supreme Court would go that far immediately, but it might get there eventually.

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People. Use a proxy. Better still use an anoymizer.

Using a proxy AFTER you enroll is closing the barn door after the horses run away.

"You need a stent?   Lemme see here.....oooooh, you were a fluid poster on Free Republic and hate the Clintons and the Democrats and that you're a self-declared Conservative and a supporter of the Tea Party!.  My goodness, you even attended their rallies. 

'You're 67 years old and haven't contributed to the tax base for several years and live on social security..."costing" the government $18K per annum.

'Stent is declined....as you only have 90% blockage....not high enough to warrant this procedure at this time.   

'Take a pill and Sayo-f**king-nara!"



STENT DECLINED.
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The government already knows or could get within hours every detail of your current life.


The government, by law, already knows where you work, how much money and assets you control, what car you drive, your children and where they school, your email, your website visits, your mobile phone calls, etc. The only information they were missing was personal medical information about you. Obamacare fills this gap.



Now they know if you have hemorrhoids, depression, or even an ear ache. When you talk to you doctor now, you are speaking into a microphone which leads directly to Obama's ear. Now that the government has direct access to your current medial situation and medical history, this information can be used in numerous ways.



I am surprised that there has not been more discussion of HIPPAA in all this. Obamacare essentially erases HIPPAA, and renders it no longer applicable. If I tell I doctor about chronic alcoholism, or drug abuse, is that now going to get my driver's license revoked? If I talk about depression, or PTSD, will I no longer be allowed to own a gun? If I am declared incompetent, will the government come in and seize all my money and assets and send me to a home somewhere? If I tell my doctor about erectile dysfunction will I start getting hammered with Viagra emails and see Cialis banners on every website I visit? I think the answer is Yes.



Obamacare is not and never has been about Health or Health Care. It is about government control over individuals on a granular level. Obama and the Left want to control every aspect of life. Now that they have control over the most personal details of every American citizen, I would say they have accomplished their long dreamed of goal.



By giving very sensitive and very personal information to the government, there is always the risk that it will be used against you in hundreds of ways or leaked to the press. There is no expectation privacy at all anymore. If you decide to run for office, or if the government becomes 'displeased' with you, you can expect every doctor's visit you have ever had to somehow make it to the Times front page. Don't listen to that guy! He was diagnosed with depression in 1984, and he has irritable bowel syndrome and can't even get it up anymore.
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Where is the ACLU???

Proof positive that no one has yet managed to enroll!  :laugh:

Though, yes. Their silence on this is disturbing - this situation is an almost textbook example of why the ACLU was formed in the first place.
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Proof positive that no one has yet managed to enroll!  :laugh:

Though, yes. Their silence on this is disturbing - this situation is an almost textbook example of why the ACLU was formed in the first place.

LOL!!!

I'm not a fan of the ACLU, however, they are right on a few cases...
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I agree. I think forced enrollment is the only way they can make it work. Nobody but the very poor and the very sick want anything to do with it. It cannot survive with a base like this. No business could.

I mean look, Congress doesn't want it. Unions don't want it. The Obama's don't want it and are not enrolled. Even the IRS which runs the damn thing doesn't want it.

What does this say about Obama's 'good product' as he put it?
« Last Edit: October 27, 2013, 03:09:23 PM by 240B »
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