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Offline Olivia

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« on: October 24, 2013, 08:28:52 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2013, 08:36:38 AM »
It is also rumored that the Marines will be instructed to incorporate new close-order drills into their training regimens:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=25Qhbdijv5Y" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=25Qhbdijv5Y</a>

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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2013, 08:39:49 AM »
It is also rumored that the Marines will be instructed to incorporate new close-order drills into their training regimens:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=25Qhbdijv5Y" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=25Qhbdijv5Y</a>


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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2013, 08:46:15 AM »
Thanks for the smile, andy!  :silly: :silly:


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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2013, 08:48:31 AM »
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2013, 08:50:53 AM »
We all know Obama is no lover of the military.  Will he change the uniform colors to pink to complete the debasement? :bash:
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2013, 08:51:53 AM »
It does dovetail with something we have often discussed - most recently as last night.

The break down of the military into a subservient or futile agent. One of the easiest ways of doing that is to destroy the unit history, one tradition at a time.
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2013, 08:57:59 AM »
Now our soldiers can look all poofy in their silly hats while they learn that Christians and tea party folk are the enemy!
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2013, 09:05:04 AM »
It does dovetail with something we have often discussed - most recently as last night.

The break down of the military into a subservient or futile agent. One of the easiest ways of doing that is to destroy the unit history, one tradition at a time.

I had a similar discussion with a couple of friends last week, as regards Obama's replacement of the command structure with his own loyalists, while changing long-standing military doctrine to reflect both the Progressive world-view and liberal social policy. Attempts to make enlisted members less prideful of their history and appearance, and more directly subservient to the C-I-C's political agenda would very much seem to dovetail with the other actions we've witnessed.

Toward what end? One wonders.
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2013, 09:11:20 AM »


Toward what end? One wonders.

Read Mein Kampf. >:D
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2013, 09:12:30 AM »
Attempts to make enlisted members less prideful of their history and appearance, and more directly subservient to the C-I-C's political agenda would very much seem to dovetail with the other actions we've witnessed.

Toward what end? One wonders.

We could speculate. Over here it was done, very methodically during my time in, to break two regiments completely and reduce the size of the army with no single politician getting their hands dirty. Kitchener used the same technique in WW1 to reduce the importance and influence of line regiments on military policy, compared to "Kitcheners Army."

It has a slightly different effect here - you guys have military bases, we have military towns, with regimental associations going back hundreds of years.
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2013, 09:17:23 AM »

The old hats (left) compared to the new ones (right).

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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2013, 09:21:19 AM »
They do look rather like kepi's , don't they.
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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2013, 01:17:28 PM »
They do look rather like kepi's , don't they.

Kepis came from the French, didn't they?  Another slap in the face of the military. :chairbang:
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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2013, 01:27:42 PM »
Kepis came from the French, didn't they?  Another slap in the face of the military. :chairbang:

Not totally. Kepi's are French Foreign Legion. Tough asses and to be admired.

Just - not traditional for US Marines, who have their own pride, their own traditions, their own subculture (and yeah, they can be arrogant, but nothing the odd friendly brawl doesn't fix, rapidly!)  :laugh:
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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2013, 01:29:58 PM »
Meanwhile, we can't feed them properly at FOB's in the sand boxes.

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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2013, 01:39:52 PM »
Meanwhile, we can't feed them properly at FOB's in the sand boxes.

Ford will know better - but that is our dear Michelle.

What does an adult male need? About 3000 calories a day for moderate work. Out there, you will lose weight so fast on that you'll blame evil magicians. You need about 3 times that with the heat, the intense work outs, the training and (if you'll excuse the phrase) the constant shitting. I lost 40 lbs in 4 weeks - and I wasn't doing anything particularly strenuous. Hauling cases, driving and walking very fast everywhere (never run. It is like tempting bears)

Sitting in a comfortably air conditioned base, maybe doing one round of training per day, the 3000 calories is just fine and any more gets you piling on the fat like a prize hog.

So - one size fits all has become the norm. The "standard" number of calories has been dictated from on high by people who have never missed a meal in their life and who's necks look like jellyfish trying to escape their shirts.
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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2013, 01:46:41 PM »

The old hats (left) compared to the new ones (right).
To my eyes, the pair on the left look like soldiers.

The pair on the right look more like crossing guards. 
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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2013, 02:16:42 PM »
Oh dear God no!    Looks like a bellhop.     I may get my jaw busted for slipping one a dollar to carry my luggage.
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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2013, 02:28:56 PM »
I joined the Navy when  Adm. Zumwalt drastically changed the Navy uniforms (with Jimmy Carters approval). He did away with the crackerjack uniform, all now all enlisted wore the same basic uniform that had been reserved for CPO's. Black suit jacket, black pants, white police stile cover.  Dungarees were replaced by a horrible color blue polyester shirt and slacks and ball cap that turned out melted to your skin in a fire.  I can still remember all the navy people who hated the change. Part of their tradition was gone. Well the dungarees and crackerjacks came back (Under Reagan) when they could see the recruitment numbers drastically drop.    The uniform they offer is a huge draw factor.
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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2013, 05:23:54 PM »
The only thing Obama has on his plate is to worry about the shape of a marine's hat?
Typical community organizer mentality!  :blank:
 
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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2013, 05:44:40 PM »
The only thing Obama has on his plate is to worry about the shape of a marine's hat?
Typical community organizer mentality!  :blank:

Col. Cowan was on Cavuto and pointed out the military claims they have no money for fuel, but they have $8 million to waste on hats?

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« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2013, 05:57:34 PM »
Does anybody still wonder if our military is being emasculated?  Deliberately and systematically.  Chesty Puller is rolling in his grave.

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« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2013, 06:28:21 PM »
Is it just me or do those hats resemble these from the French Foreign Legion?



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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2013, 06:29:01 PM »
Is it just me or do those hats resemble these from the French Foreign Legion?

 

Yep, Cavuto was showing pics on his show.


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