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Zogby: Shutdown is Obama's leadership failure, period.
« on: October 21, 2013, 01:25:31 PM »
« Last Edit: October 21, 2013, 01:26:07 PM by rangerrebew »
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Re: Zogby: Shutdown is Obama's leadership failure, period.
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2013, 02:03:45 PM »
Since most obozo supporters can't spell "-F", I doubt Zogby's results will have any impact on the Boy King's popularity.
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Re: Zogby: Shutdown is Obama's leadership failure, period.
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2013, 02:05:58 PM »
Since most obozo supporters can't spell "-F", I doubt Zogby's results will have any impact on the Boy King's popularity.

In my mind, he gloats at the chaos.   :nometalk:
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Re: Zogby: Shutdown is Obama's leadership failure, period.
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2013, 02:10:50 PM »
Zogby's opinion.....AND....$1.54 will get you a 16 oz. coffee at the local 7-11.  :whistle:
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Re: Zogby: Shutdown is Obama's leadership failure, period.
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2013, 02:17:04 PM »
However Obama is not running in 2014, and a lot of Republicans are.

But by Nov. 2014, this recent episode may be forgotten, replaced by a few more opportunities for the GOP-TP to seal their fates, for better or worse.

I heard a commentator recently stating the TP was more popular inside the GOP, but less popular with Independents, and less overall.
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Re: Zogby: Shutdown is Obama's leadership failure, period.
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2013, 02:34:12 PM »
However Obama is not running in 2014, and a lot of Republicans are.

But by Nov. 2014, this recent episode may be forgotten, replaced by a few more opportunities for the GOP-TP to seal their fates, for better or worse.

I heard a commentator recently stating the TP was more popular inside the GOP, but less popular with Independents, and less overall.

I don't know about elsewhere, but there's a lot of independents around here that think very highly of the TP, including myself.
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Re: Zogby: Shutdown is Obama's leadership failure, period.
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2013, 09:29:27 PM »
[[ However Obama is not running in 2014, and a lot of Republicans are. ]]

A lot of chatter lately about whether the democrats could push for Obama to run for a third term in 2016, regardless of the Constitution amendment that bans same.

Impossible, most folks will say.

But if he wants to keep his grip on power, I would expect most of the sychophant "mainstrem media" would go to bat for him, and keep on swinging -- just as they do now.

Can't you foresee the arguments they might use?

"The greatest president we ever had (FDR) was elected four times".
"Just because it's in the Constitution, doesn't make it right. After all, slavery was a part of the Constitution until the Civil War".
"It's _discrimination_ to bar the first black man to be elected president from running if he wants to..."

40% of the population would eat this right up.
And more could be bamboozled, as well.

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Re: Zogby: Shutdown is Obama's leadership failure, period.
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2013, 09:44:20 AM »
"It's _discrimination_ to bar the first black man to be elected president from running if he wants to..."

Hitler was the first non-German to be elected Chancellor, too. :2gunz:
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Re: Zogby: Shutdown is Obama's leadership failure, period.
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2013, 10:19:14 AM »
Hitler was the first non-German to be elected Chancellor, too. :2gunz:

Actually, that's not true. While Hitler was born in Austria, he was a naturalized German citizen. One of the smaller, Nazi controlled German states granted him citizenship no later than 1931. The Germans didn't require native birth to hold office.
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