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Conservatives, Get a Grip on Reality! By Charlie Cook
« on: October 19, 2013, 09:22:19 AM »

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Re: Conservatives, Get a Grip on Reality! By Charlie Cook
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2013, 09:47:32 AM »
Actually, I never cared whether shutting down the government over Obamacare would "work."  That's a DC calculation and part of the "how can we fool them today" thinking of beltway-dependent establishment types.  I only cared whether it was the right thing to do.  I still think it was the right thing to do, and caving was the wrong thing to do.

I love the way the author paints Romney and the shut down with the same brush.  It never occurs to him that the people who supported Romney and thought Romney would win were not conservatives, but moderates.  It was Karl Rove and his gang claiming there was going to be a "landslide."  In fact, had Romney won, the Tea Party would probably be contained and we'd be trying to push Mitt as far to the right as we could.  Instead, we have nothing to lose at this point, so why not exercise our political power in some ways that get the attention and raise some concerns among the establishment?
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Re: Conservatives, Get a Grip on Reality! By Charlie Cook
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2013, 11:45:33 AM »
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I consulted a psychiatrist and a psychologist on this question. Both said there is no formal term for the behavior some Republicans are exhibiting

I like to think of it as the "Thomas Jefferson Syndrome".   :smokin:
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Re: Conservatives, Get a Grip on Reality! By Charlie Cook
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2013, 11:58:33 AM »
People like Charlie Cook are a HUGE part of the problem rather than the solution!

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Re: Conservatives, Get a Grip on Reality! By Charlie Cook
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2013, 12:38:40 PM »
He uses examples from both sides, and he is right on target, as far as political analysis.

We saw it here, over the last few weeks. The upswing of enthusiasm, the suppression of contrarian opinion, etc.

Conservatism is failing to convince people, is losing, and people are high-fiving each other.
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Re: Conservatives, Get a Grip on Reality! By Charlie Cook
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2013, 12:43:43 PM »
Truthfully, the most important thing in life is knowing what the most important things in life are, and prioritizing them accordingly.   Melchor Lim

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Re: Conservatives, Get a Grip on Reality! By Charlie Cook
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2013, 12:46:41 PM »
He uses examples from both sides, and he is right on target, as far as political analysis.

We saw it here, over the last few weeks. The upswing of enthusiasm, the suppression of contrarian opinion, etc.

Conservatism is failing to convince people, is losing, and people are high-fiving each other.

Charlie Cook is just another political consultant trying to make sure HIS ox doesn't get gored! Nothing more or less than that.

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Re: Conservatives, Get a Grip on Reality! By Charlie Cook
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2013, 01:00:20 PM »
Charlie Cook is just another political consultant trying to make sure HIS ox doesn't get gored! Nothing more or less than that.
And Charlie Cook has an excellent record, for calling races correctly.

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Re: Conservatives, Get a Grip on Reality! By Charlie Cook
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Re: Conservatives, Get a Grip on Reality! By Charlie Cook
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2013, 01:06:46 PM »
And Charlie Cook has an excellent record, for calling races correctly.

Looks like you and I are just going to have to agree to disagree and move on!

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Re: Conservatives, Get a Grip on Reality! By Charlie Cook
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2013, 01:08:01 PM »
Of course if Walker's efforts to bust the unions had failed, Cooke would probably have hailed THAT in this piece too.   This column looks like Cooke is just swarming around like a buzzard, picking off various people's failed efforts.     

Charlie Cook likes things just as they are and doesn't want the status quo messed with!

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Re: Conservatives, Get a Grip on Reality! By Charlie Cook
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2013, 02:02:54 PM »
Charlie Cook likes things just as they are and doesn't want the status quo messed with!

He's a liberal, so of course he likes the status quo. And he lives in an echo chamber (Washington, D.C.) where actual conservatives are as rare as whooping cranes, and where the few extant members of the species must try to warble their message through a nearly-impenetrable web of news media scorn and hostility.
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Re: Conservatives, Get a Grip on Reality! By Charlie Cook
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2013, 04:17:35 PM »
He's a liberal, so of course he likes the status quo. And he lives in an echo chamber (Washington, D.C.) where actual conservatives are as rare as whooping cranes, and where the few extant members of the species must try to warble their message through a nearly-impenetrable web of news media scorn and hostility.
He's highly regarded, for calling races accurately.
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